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again about pleiadians
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DennisTenaglia
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Posted : Apr 2, 2005 01:06
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sorry about tha redundant topic.
I red that at the beginning pleiadians was a 4 members group, and now only 2. I know they released 2 album 'IFO' & 'family of light'.
I want to buy one of them, what do ya prefer?
some people talk about old legendary pleiadians sound, which tracks or album are they talking about?
thanx
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DennisTenaglia
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Posted : Apr 2, 2005 01:41
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or maybe you don't like at all???
who like it & who don't like it? |
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TiMMY
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Posted : Apr 2, 2005 02:27
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When I talk about them I talk about both albms 
Both are excellent but I prefer IFO. |
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Acidhive
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Posted : Apr 2, 2005 03:01
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I really like some of their older tracks. I own the Family of Light album myself and there are some killer tracks on it. Be on guard that the production doesn't sound as crisp as it does nowadays though. Some of the tracks could really use some better mastering. Still, a classic it remains (and IFO is a classic too)
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Redlink
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Posted : Apr 2, 2005 05:00
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i advice you to buy the both, but if you have to choose one i advice you to choose the one which as the song "Electra" in it!!
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CRX(HSS Records)
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Posted : Apr 2, 2005 12:13
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the trick about pleiadians is that they were not just making music.they composed songs.their tracks had a structure.purchace them both.its a nice investment for both DF and HL.
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Morbidelic
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Posted : Apr 2, 2005 18:59
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klaxer
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Posted : Apr 3, 2005 16:42
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1995-1998: four members (the above plus Max Lanfranconi and Maurizio Begotti)
While Carlo isn't credited in the liner notes for Family Of Light (if memory serves me correctly), he was involved in at least some of the tracks. He is credited on the Headspin EP, for example.
But this is when he left (sometime during 1998 or possibly even late '97), and this was the first deadly blow to Etnica / Pleiadians.
1999: Family Of Light is released. While considered a very good album by most (including me) and having slightly fatter production than its predecessor, musically it is generally considered lacking, in comparison with I.F.O... It's my belief that this is, at least in part, due to the absence of Carlo Paternos melodic genious in some of the tracks.
This is also the year the Etnica album Equator is released. Carlo didn't participate in any of the tracks here as far as I know, and while having a few quite OK tracks, it's nowhere near Alien Protein or other previous Etnica releases.
2000-2004: Somewhere after Equator, Andrea leaves the band. I'm not at home so I can't check my records to see exactly when this is, but with Nitrox Etnica takes another few steps down from the throne of melodic psychedelia. Now Andrea has left too, and there is nothing left in this band for me. I never bought Nitrox.
At no point since they became a two-man act have Etnica / Pleiadians been close to revoking the magic vibes and musical genious of the early years. Song structures and arrangements became far less complex, the sounds lost their unique touch, melodies have been mediocre if they could be found at all. Sure, there have been a few tracks worth a listen, but in perspective, it's a sad development.
Also, Pleiadians was Carlo Paterno's project initially; He made the first Pleiadians track all by himself, the self-titled "Pleiadians" (or so I'm told) released on Symbiosis in 1995. Apparantly he wasn't too happy to see the others continue under this name after his departure.
You don't listen to I.F.O. or any other old Pleiadians stuff for the percussion or stuff like that. You listen because of the mesmerizing, trance-inducing, multi-layered kaleidoscopic explosions of sound and melody, the sense of journey created by those amazing arrangements, melodies and scales. That stuff is, in my humble opinion, unequalled in the history of music.
Now whatever may come out of a new Pleiadians album, I have a very very hard time imagining that it can be good in the ways that old Pleiadians music was good. I don't need a clone of I.F.O, I don't demand another Headspin, but the essence of Pleiadians, both musically and in terms of its effect on my mind and others, seems out of reach by Max and Maurizio. It could be that they're not striving for that, but if so I have absolutely no idea what they're trying to do or why. It's my opinion that they would be better off doing something else or sticking with the Etnica name that they have already degraded in the eyes of myself and of many others that were fans from back in 1995.
Looking at the track record of the two-man constellation of Etnica, I just don't think they have it in them. Listen to their releases on Spirit Zone for example, or the sad abomination that is "Starship 202" - do you seriously think that the people who made that can produce an album worthy of the Pleiadians name? Either they've lost their magic somewhere along the road, or, more likely, that magic left with the departure of the prodigous Carlo Paterno and Andrea Rizzo.
This ended up being much longer than I had planned, but I feel very strongly about this topic - old Etnica and Pleiadians tunes have had an enormous impact on me and my taste in music - It would make me very sad to see the second of those names get dragged in the dirt just like the first.
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klaxer
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Posted : Apr 3, 2005 17:22
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ANDREA RIZZO
was the only member who frequented a music school, he was the sound engineer and melody scales maestro.
At this moment Andrea lives in Milan,works there and try to making more commercial music.
CARLO PATERNO
was the melodic brain of the band and pattern scaler.
After "Family of Light" release carlo left the band and to go study in London.
In 2001 year Carlo together with a famous italian bass player called Saturnino has made a lounge album under alias DAEDALUS at Italian label NUN Entertainment.
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DennisTenaglia
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Posted : Apr 3, 2005 19:00
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ohh, thanx a lot for the info. can't wait to have both albums. |
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Morbidelic
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Posted : Apr 5, 2005 22:47
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