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added 8GB ram on macbook pro and no logic's performance improved

PsyGalaXy
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Posted : Oct 27, 2011 16:28:03
i have a late 2009 mbp core due duo with 320 gb hdd

i expected at least a little improvement with 8gb , but everything has improved apart logic (8)
it only goes a little faster when loading kontakt patches, no more noticeable improvement
fuck
any thoughts?
what i can do to make this laptop no hassling me when i use logic?
should i have to spend 300+ euro for SSD hd?
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Posted : Oct 27, 2011 16:45
RAM only increase the amount of data that can be accesed fast, not speed or amount of data procesed. So, NO it wouldnt increase the performance of your computer just how much kontakt patches can be running at the same time.

SSD will increase the speed at which you accses files, start up programs, but again it wont bring an overall improvement in performance. That's more related to the cpu, and you cant change cpu on must laptops.
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Posted : Oct 27, 2011 18:17
A little more information would help, how much free space is on your HDD? What OS are you using? Cause although I have a fast enough MacPro (4core Xeon CPU with only 1gig of RAM) when there is less than 10gigs of HDD available its going to start failing (not crushing, just get the not able to process data on time). Also when I upgraded from Tiger to Snow Leo, I could feel the computer was slower, straight away...

The cheap way of working around your problems, is doing things the old way and bounce/freeze tracks that use heavy plug ins.

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PsyGalaXy
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Posted : Oct 27, 2011 23:03
Hey thxx!
I have about 100gb free on disk, and 10.6 os.
plus i have optimized my new projects folllowing this guide:
http://support.apple.com/kb/TA24535

particullary i have shfited many plugins to busses and process there and toggled "smaple accuracy automation" on everything

but the improvement is still little and hard to notice

i'm really thinking to ditch my current hdd and replace it with a faster SSD           http://mystic-sound.com/releases/ioon-cosmic-downtempo-9314-oclock/
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Posted : Oct 27, 2011 23:13
add this and you will enjoy massive improvement with for example a crucial m4 ssd wich is what im doing soon..

http://hardwrk.com/en/ssd-hdd-adapter-kit-for-macbook-pro.html

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Posted : Oct 27, 2011 23:29
SATA-N Adapter muahah }:-}
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Posted : Oct 28, 2011 15:04
yeah, i´d only go for RAM and HDD if you have problems
with loading stuff (as you noticed).


you need a better cpu for the common "speed" issue.


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Martian Arts

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Posted : Oct 28, 2011 15:17
If you decide to get a new mac, make sure you keep the old one as you can use Logic node to off load processing to both computers, as you see fit.

I have 8 cores between the 4core Xeon macPro and the i7 macBookPro.

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Posted : Oct 29, 2011 01:24
it work good man?
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Nodes do work, but are only useful for logic´s own plugs. That´s only half a victory really. I see we are talking about logic 8 and i can honestly not remember how much 64bit code is in that one. Osx can only delegate 4 gigs pr. app if the app and os runs in 32bit mode. While ram is important to system performance it does not make your computer much faster in processing terms. That part is all down to the cpu for hard number crunching. Bounce to disk a lot instead of having heavy au´s running live. My album was made on a 2.2 ghz dual core hackintosh with 4 gigs of ram and i never had any issues with an optimized workflow. Only just upgraded the cpu for fun but can´t say i use that extra power for anything. Updating to logic 9 is under all circumstances highly recommended as it is a more recent version that for sure can take advantage of the full compliment of ram. Workflow is everything really and insanely great stuff has been made on stuff people would laugh at today (the first computer in my studio had an almighty 200Mhz cpu, yet i still managed to make tunes)           Mastering available here:
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