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Nectarios
Martian Arts
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Posted : Nov 13, 2013 17:16
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The Volca Bass sounds nothing like a 303.
There is a slight difference on the square wave between the TB and the x0x I have, but a very well known producer whom with I am currently collabing for a new project (which will involve music like the track I posted here, cheers for kind words by the way), who has a TB, says my x0x sounds the same and the high gain VCA makes it sound louder, he said it also sounds punchier and less noisy.
I would love an original TB-303 but they go for crazy money, I could buy a great modular with that cash...
 
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willsanquil
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Posted : Nov 13, 2013 18:01
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B-recluse
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Posted : Nov 14, 2013 12:58
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good one !! like the variation viva acid !! |
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Sunrise Travellers
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Posted : Nov 14, 2013 15:21
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if someone isn't a fan of 303 with your tracks definitely they will love the sound. 
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klippel
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Posted : Nov 14, 2013 21:04
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well dude, you should more often leave your beaten track then maybe ;-)
splendid acid journey and it surely has that old logic bomb vibe to it like tommy said (until the distorted riff hits you in your face) with a pinch of union jack when the bassline first starts to play.
really like the groove you have going and the ace analogue vibe oozing out off every pore.. more please 
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PoM
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Posted : Nov 14, 2013 21:28
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nice one mate..agree 303 still rocks maybe more than ever as it s not overused anymore? anyway for me i never got enought and always loved acid !
i vote for a tune a la hardfloor with more 303 layer ! to me the more the better 
also love 303 clean acid riffs with delay verb..no distortion ,these seem even less used but it can really make the 303 shine to me making it sound psychedelic |
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Padmapani
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Posted : Nov 14, 2013 22:02
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nice one mate..agree 303 still rocks maybe more than ever as it s not overused anymore? anyway for me i never got enought and always loved acid !
i vote for a tune a la hardfloor with more 303 layer ! to me the more the better
also love 303 clean acid riffs with delay verb..no distortion ,these seem even less used but it can really make the 303 shine to me making it sound psychedelic
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what do you mean by overused? if anyhing the 303 has always been underused 
seconded. there can never be enough 303. and even the thought that there could be something like too much 303 is grotesque.
also agreed. distorted 303 is the power and clean 303 is the beauty |
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PoM
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Posted : Nov 15, 2013 13:37
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On 2013-11-14 22:02, Padmapani wrote:
clean 303 is the beauty
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yep on some spot it can really organic and liquid..there i m not sure the clones deliver that beauty as well, they tend to sound more static from some old comparaison i remember. i think it s cause of the age of the circuits. |
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frisbeehead
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Posted : Nov 15, 2013 16:38
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clean 303 is the beauty
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yep on some spot it can really organic and liquid..there i m not sure the clones deliver that beauty as well, they tend to sound more static from some old comparaison i remember. i think it s cause of the age of the circuits.
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I think the xoxbox is spot on for my ears! Maybe I'm not a hardcore purist when it comes to acid deuties then eheh... And I personaly like the d16's plug-in on the software side, much more so then the ABL, that I think is the favourite one for most people, no?
most of the time I'm happy using even the Virus with the Analogue filter, make it 3 pole for history's sake then XD... but the xoxbox is on my "must get" list, partly because of the sound, mostly because of the kind of sequencer. I find limitations are a bless for creativity, specially when it means less mouse clicks.
while we're at it, does anyone here have the Nord 4? (I know, kind of pricey), would love to ear an example of their new 303 filter emulation (besides the generic sound examples they have in their website of course, psytrance should have made it into anyone's sound examples for sellign synths already, no? are this guys hooked to vh1 or something?)
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woodster77
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Posted : Nov 15, 2013 16:42
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they never seem to get the envs right, this would probably be where they loose the organic fluid feel of the filter
dincync in eurorack gets pretty close to fluidic feel of the TB303, cant really compare but the guy who let me try it had a couple of tb's years back and was happy with what he got from it,
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PoM
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Posted : Nov 15, 2013 19:12
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even if there were using exaclty the same circuits it wouldn t be spot on, tb is 30 years old and this affect the sound and it s part of what we like.if you check some forums with 303 fanatic you will see they buy more than one and keep the best sounding..
the closest clone will probably be some plugins in the futur but not d16 or abl and dunno if todays cpu can handle a perfect emulation yet..
personally i would buy a xox wihtout thinking twice even if it s not spot one..price of 303 is crazy |
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woodster77
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Posted : Nov 15, 2013 20:46
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frisbeehead
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Posted : Nov 15, 2013 22:01
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On 2013-11-15 19:12, PoM wrote:
even if there were using exaclty the same circuits it wouldn t be spot on, tb is 30 years old and this affect the sound and it s part of what we like.if you check some forums with 303 fanatic you will see they buy more than one and keep the best sounding..
the closest clone will probably be some plugins in the futur but not d16 or abl and dunno if todays cpu can handle a perfect emulation yet..
personally i would buy a xox wihtout thinking twice even if it s not spot one..price of 303 is crazy
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indeed and that's true about a lot of stuff. I believe the Korg MS 20 mini is exactly the same (as in circuitry used) as the orignal, the difference being in the aging of the components, more so then anything else... but who cares? besides some hardcore fanatics who spend so much money that would make me a refurbished studio. I care more about the music, to be honest. and I think acid doesn't end in the 303, let alone the original... any nice sounding juicy filter that can deliver some squelch is up for the task, and variety is actually gold to me, rather then something that falls short in comparison with something... never owned a real 303, nor am I thinking of ever getting one. it's an overated toy, tbo, sounds wonderful but not worth the money, it's just something that got out of hand for historic reasons and that's all... xoxbox is more then enough to anyone desiring to use this sound in the real world as far as I'm concerned...
but yeah, there's even websites with A/B comparisons with the plug-ins. I think the ABL is the winner there, but I like D16's one much more, maybe because I don't know how the real thing sounds and this one sounds better to me? think a big part of it must be down to the sequencer itself and the organic feel that comes with it, and yeah, would take a lot to perfectly simulate some analogue piece of gear (as in cpu cycles), we can get a grasp of that with the new incarnations of analogue modeling stuff, like Diva, and they're still cutting corners, otherwise even a i7 cpu would get to his knees before you had some acid playing... but we'll eventually get there! |
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PoM
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Posted : Nov 15, 2013 23:12
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i like acid from all synth as well..but these old roland filters and clone have really something great, maybe it s the definition of acid sound , there is some magic .
if i had to pick just one filter for acid in a modular ,it would be for sure a roland clone even maybe for everhting..it s just sound so classic for electronic music, if you want really acid vibe it s the stuff to get and nothign else i heard deliver as much..it s just definition of the word acid imo.. |
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woodster77
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Posted : Nov 16, 2013 00:18
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sallen key filters are acid as well....in my book
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