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Xolvexs
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Posted : Jul 23, 2010 08:58:18
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Maine Coon
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Posted : Jul 23, 2010 18:33
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Excellent!
This clip could replace the whole Spirituality forum and a good chunk of posts elsewhere on IsraTrance. Best sermon I've ever heard.
Thanks.
P.S. If they counted this topic in your profile - would you give up the other 190?  |
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mica
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Posted : Jul 24, 2010 07:04
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thankyou for this one Xolvexs
really made me think and put in order similar thoughts that i have been dwelling on |
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Pauldo
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Posted : Jul 24, 2010 07:07
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I actually really like this vid. How he touched on assigning the meanings of good or bad to things one encounters in life. |
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Xolvexs
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Posted : Jul 24, 2010 14:58
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P.S. If they counted this topic in your profile - would you give up the other 190?
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i have nothing..so whats there to give up?
 When death comes to your doorstep, make sure you are alive |
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Gunter
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Posted : Jul 28, 2010 11:37
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Well, I don`t want to be too negative, since there is no sense for it, but, what can you really lean from these gurus, also Osho and Co.,. they don`t say anthing, which a normal person can`t figure him or herself. I say, better go your own way. Or use a technic. But litening to talks is a waste of time for me, better do your own thinking.  |
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Maine Coon
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Posted : Jul 28, 2010 17:51
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True, one can figure it out. And you are right, quiet contemplation on your own is probably more rewarding than watching a YouTube video of a guru. The thing is, though, most people would watch a video anyway. Just a different video. Without a guru they would watch the latest “breaking news” about Lindsey Lohan’s driving record, for example. Without listening to this guy, they would probably listen to Bill O’Reily or Keith Olberman (pick your poison). We don’t live in a vacuum. Even when we are isolated from the outside noise by our iPods, we are still affected by what is playing. A guru is a good alternative to garbage, that’s all.
And actually none of the Major Prophets said anything a 10-year-old could not figure out. That’s the beauty of it. Truth is pretty simple. We pollute our brains by “complicated” stuff like a starlet’s drinking problems or presidential elections to save ourselves from boredom. Meanwhile, the simple grains of truth are forgotten. Gurus are there just to remind us.
P.S. I am talking about this particular guy. There are plenty of “gurus” I’ve heard that I would not listen to again.
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Gunter
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Posted : Jul 29, 2010 10:03
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Ya, it can be entertainment, but I am just waiting for something real to get offerd by such gurus (never happend ti now, only surface talk). Maybe Goenka is a big exeption, but that`s Buddhism / Vipassana, which is THE key, ha |
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Xolvexs
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Posted : Jul 29, 2010 10:31
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everything is entertainment...you have to kill time once you are born..unless you are fortunate enough to be able to sleep for long hours of the day...like the serpant
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Gunter
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Posted : Jul 29, 2010 14:07
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I think , etertainment through media is a lot of times an escape from really working with your own self. |
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Maine Coon
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Posted : Jul 29, 2010 17:55
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That's exactly what I was trying to say in the previous post. Our attention is not limitless. And it's already stretched to the max by all kinds of garbage, which does not improve our lives or lives of those we love in any way. TV commercials, meetings at work (admit it, 80% of them are total waste of time), political propaganda (including the charming and inspiring kind), empty movies and books, cheesy music. All this is not only a waste of time – it’s a distraction from thinking for yourself. Gurus are not supposed to provide answers (at least the real ones would not) – they are here to direct your attention where you can find those answers yourself.
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Gunter
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Posted : Jul 29, 2010 18:14
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On 2010-07-29 17:55, Maine Coon wrote:
Gurus are not supposed to provide answers (at least the real ones would not) – they are here to direct your attention where you can find those answers yourself.
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Well, guru = teacher. Teachers should point out answers, if they know them. Everything else would be weird. Buddha also gave answers on how to reach enlightenment. Exact ways. Exact rules. But a guru talking about society surface things is just like an entainer. funny .. but if this satisfies people evrything is fine .. |
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toogoodforyou
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Posted : Jul 29, 2010 19:37
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On 2010-07-28 17:51, Maine Coon wrote:
^ Without a guru they would watch the latest “breaking news” about Lindsey Lohan’s driving record, for example. Without listening to this guy, they would probably listen to Bill O’Reily or Keith Olberman (pick your poison). We don’t live in a vacuum. Even when we are isolated from the outside noise by our iPods, we are still affected by what is playing. A guru is a good alternative to garbage, that’s all.
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Hands down, a good guru talking sense is a way better alternative that lindsay lohan drunken monkey stories. |
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