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HandA
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Posted : Mar 3, 2005 15:03
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On 2005-03-03 14:54, darkiller wrote:
Handa only wants to prove that my post was not delited cause I'm a jew(handa-Irealy don't understand where is your common sense how dared you to write such a post and expect it wont be delited?!), and for some reason he fought with every single person that crosed him along the way, I tryied to explain to him some sense but man.. this is a no can do!
Handa
this is not a conspiracy against anyone
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LOL you still go on and on about the jewish issue dont you dear? 
As I said I reacted toward racism and a highly Political post that should have been reased in the name of the rules here. If rules are only for some and not for all then I see no reason why people should apply to them!
I frankly dont care if it was written by a jew, an arab, a European or whatever nationality!
The fact remain i critisised a thread that was racistic and very Political and the result was that my post was deleted but the rest was left for everyone to read!
Now that wa a certain moderators choice. But maybe he did a wrong choice? I think he did. But I also know by experience that if I had complained to him directly or here I would have been ignored or deleted as usual 
You can call me a jew-hater as you again assume in your previous post and whatever you need to call mw to justify your post. I know what I am and what i am not |
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darkiller
IsraTrance Junior Member
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Posted : Mar 3, 2005 15:09
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I didnt call you that.
now, my post was not racist and yours was= therefor it was delited.
now: the thread was not so politic but It delt only with dry facts about living in israel,
the topic was eventually closed I think because modorators didn want it to go political.
its like this is getting political, but no these are criminals:
http://forum.isratrance.com/viewtopic.php/topic/57226/forum/1
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HandA
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Posted : Mar 3, 2005 15:14
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On 2005-03-03 14:54, darkiller wrote:
Handa only wants to prove that my post was not delited cause I'm a jew(handa-Irealy don't understand where is your common sense how dared you to write such a post and expect it wont be delited |
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Now then what is this? To me it's the same as saying that I only critisised your post because you are Jewish. Then please explain to me what you mean by what you wrote here.
Again we havee very different way of opinion when it come to racism. I still think your post was racistic maybe unintentionally but yet very harsh against arabs in general. And please. The post was only closed because I made Surrender aware of that it excisted! And no one did me any favour by deleting my post there. He sensured me as he ahs done before and made it look like he himself had stopped the thread!
I think your getting a bit off-topic with your last link. I dont see any similarity to this debate and that thread. |
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Candy
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Posted : Mar 3, 2005 15:19
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Kristian, why are u still here? You have been banned so many times from this forum since u find much pleasure in fighting everybody and everything - but yet you keep on coming back. Sounds very sadistic to me.
You don't like the rules here, don't come here.
 Majority is never right!
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traveller
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Posted : Mar 3, 2005 15:23
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On 2005-03-03 14:54, darkiller wrote:
Handa only wants to prove that my post was not delited cause I'm a jew(handa-Irealy don't understand where is your common sense how dared you to write such a post and expect it wont be delited?!), and for some reason he fought with every single person that crosed him along the way, I tryied to explain to him some sense but man.. this is a no can do!
Handa
this is not a conspiracy against anyone
and as I told you befor they did you a big favour by deliting that one!
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Well man even if your thoughts were good it came out in pretty rasistic way. And racism is way way worse than politics. From what I've gathered EP just pretty much said that your post doesn't get deleted cos ? Well why is it still there? Yet EPs remark was deleted. It does sound quite dodgy. But hey I don't really care that much, I like this place. I like psynews too, fuck I think I enjoy every single psyforum out there, althou psynews and isratrance really do stand out. They should merge these two somehow
"The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program."
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HandA
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Posted : Mar 3, 2005 15:24
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oh all the mods please join in and come with nice replies like Candy's. It's always so easy to tell people to go away if they don't agree with someone
I did not see anyone tell the many isratrance members that flooded psynews today to go away just because they did not agree with me or other people there.
And frankly i don't care what you think i should do. But of course you can always ban me again as you and Yuli seem so eager to do with a loose hand here when people dont fall into your line and behave like good children. |
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darkiller
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Posted : Mar 3, 2005 15:29
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I was not spiking of arabs in general, I refered to the terror co-oporators and I have every right to condemn them (somthing I did not do' all I said is that they scare me)
the similarity is that drug dealers in sweeden is not politics, its crime, not the list, in Israel bomb explotions can not be taken as simple politics, it is cold blood murders- these are crimes,
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HandA
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Posted : Mar 3, 2005 15:30
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On 2005-03-03 15:29, darkiller wrote:
I was not spiking of arabs in general, I refered to the terror co-oporators and I have every right to condemn them (somthing I did not do' all I said is that they scare me)
the similarity is that drug dealers in sweeden is not politics, its crime, not the list, in Israel bomb explotions can not be taken as simple politics, it is cold blood murders- these are crimes,
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Now your getting Political again |
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traveller
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Posted : Mar 3, 2005 15:34
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On 2005-03-03 15:29, darkiller wrote:
I was not spiking of arabs in general, I refered to the terror co-oporators and I have every right to condemn them (somthing I did not do' all I said is that they scare me)
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Like I said, you didn't express yourself too well cos it looked to me and many others that you were talking about arabs in general..
Sort of if I said something like "Americans are fucking retards."
then when someone starts calling me a racist I just go like, "Oh that's not what I ment, I was just talking about Rumsfeld, not Americans in general.."
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darkiller
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Posted : Mar 3, 2005 15:34
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1.you are not that smart
2. you listen only to yourself
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traveller
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Posted : Mar 3, 2005 15:38
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On 2005-03-03 15:34, darkiller wrote:
1.you are not that smart
2. you listen only to yourself
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That further proves my point that you've got a lot of hate in you. Now if say Sharar wrote the exact same thing you did in the other thread I wouldn't find it rasistic cause I know better. In your case, it's not that suprising that you put out hate. Actually I still think you were talking about all the arabs. But only came up with this excuse after it became an issue..
And now I'm out of here, big math exam tomorrow.. can't wait to see how this drama ends.. "The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program."
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HandA
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Posted : Mar 3, 2005 15:40
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Anyway i atullay wrote an answer back to Surrender who to my big surprise send me a private message. We'll see how that goes.
And just to the mods info. I actually do like it here. I have nice people I talk to in private and I like many rooms here. But the fact does not go away that you and I disagree with some moderation here. Now your right when you say it's your rules and that I should live with it.. I have no problem with that. And I have followed your rules for quite a long time. now... You got to agree with that!
But then when I follow the rules and make a comment about a thread that should be closed I am sensored... Now how does that fit into the picture?
That's why i react. Not because of your rules but because I am being punished for living up to your rules! Punished by a moderator that have been on my back so many times I cant count it anymore. Sometimes he was right and sometimes he was wrong. But I have NEVER had an applogy from him or any of you when he's/you've been wrong. I recall telling you (Shahar and ShivaS) I was sorry in private posts Maybe if some of you had been willing to do the same to me we would not have had this situation!
It takes a man to say sorry
And I am not afraid to say i am sorry for some of the fights I have started in the past. But I am not sorry about this one. I think i am quite spot on with my critique this time! |
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darkiller
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Posted : Mar 3, 2005 15:43
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On 2005-03-03 15:34, darkiller wrote:
1.you are not that smart
2. you listen only to yourself
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That further proves my point that you've got a lot of hate in you. Now if say Sharar wrote the exact same thing you did in the other thread I wouldn't find it rasistic cause I know better. In your case, it's not that suprising that you put out hate. Actually I still think you were talking about all the arabs. But only came up with this excuse after it became an issue..
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No, that one was for Handa that I'm explaining to him for a few hours now and he stil persists on stiking to not understandin,
What makes me mad is that I know that the guy is not stupid, his only true goal is to argue more and more
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HandA
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Posted : Mar 3, 2005 15:46
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On 2005-03-03 15:43, darkiller wrote:
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On 2005-03-03 15:38, traveller wrote:
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On 2005-03-03 15:34, darkiller wrote:
1.you are not that smart
2. you listen only to yourself
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That further proves my point that you've got a lot of hate in you. Now if say Sharar wrote the exact same thing you did in the other thread I wouldn't find it rasistic cause I know better. In your case, it's not that suprising that you put out hate. Actually I still think you were talking about all the arabs. But only came up with this excuse after it became an issue..
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No, that one was for Handa that I'm explaining to him for a few hours now and he stil persists on stiking to not understandin,
What makes me mad is that I know that the guy is not stupid, his only true goal is to argue more and more
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No dude that's your goal as well as assuming i am a jew-hater!
As I said a few times before it's got nothing to do with understanding anything. It got all to do with how we see things differently - especially how we understand racisim. Now is that acceptable or do I have to repeat myself again? |
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shahar
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Posted : Mar 3, 2005 15:52
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Guys, no fighting and no politics here.
Kristian, please go away with your fights, or we'll ban you again, and keep playing that stupid cat and mouse thingy.
You haven't really responded to my post, which is no surprise, there's nothing against you there, and I think you find it hard to converse with someone who has no intention in fighting with you.
Guys, why don't we talk about music?
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