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Yuli
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Posted : Mar 3, 2005 01:39
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Sorry I need to open this and before I continue I must say, that I respect EP as a very talented musician and now we go:
http://www.psynews.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=22968#
This is a thread this guy has opened in Psynews forum.
I mean how low can u be, and how bored, can one be...
I think that Shahar, who is my close friend is one of the most calm and left wing ppl I know.. I myself not as calm for sure yeah.. but I am also extreme left wing politically
But what EP ( or HandA ) does is simply totally racist, and I really dont know where all this uncontrolled shit coming out so fast - man get yourself a woman or something. Apart of that this is completely out of line to do what he does - what are we 2 year olds??? 
Mommy look what Surrender did to me...
If I was in charge here I would ban his IP for good, I mean there is a red line and this guy passed it few times, but this??? come on
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HandA
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Posted : Mar 3, 2005 11:51
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Now it's interesting to see if this post is allowed to stay here and if my post will be deleted while the other posts stay as they are  I am looking forward to see how much doublestandard there actully are in this forum when it come to bending the rules for certain people. |
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Naiman
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Posted : Mar 3, 2005 12:01
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There are people who can live with being moderated all the time, and there are peopel who get raged about that and needs to speak about it somewhere (it's obvious you can't do it here). :-)
I myself would like to say many things about this forum but what's the point if all negative things towards the site get's erased?
I still think that people who likes to moderate so much, and likes to be in control, and needs to remind users all the time about some rules should go to the army and make a career there.
And yes, this is a free forum and you can do whatever you want. Like writing user names on a paper and put them in a bowl and shake it and pick up a paper randomly and banning the lucky one, That doesn't mean one can just accept it.
And you were critising of threads that leads to nowhere because it's only ranting, so i suppouse you wouldn't do the same, and this thread has some other meaning? |
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Hodi
IsraTrance Full Member
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Posted : Mar 3, 2005 13:06
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i really didn't understand.. what E.P wrote that made u so mad?!
u can find "Anything U Want" using the search... |
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darkiller
IsraTrance Junior Member
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Posted : Mar 3, 2005 13:37
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@ EP
you trashed Isratrance and now you come to post here?
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Yuli
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Posted : Mar 3, 2005 13:43
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On 2005-03-03 13:06, Hodi wrote:
i really didn't understand.. what E.P wrote that made u so mad?!
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Well nothing EP writes really surprises me, but the fact he went to other forum, that for sure there is a certain struggle between psynews vs. isratrance who has the biggest.. So he goes there and washes his dirty laundry there... At least he would give us a note to come and say what we have to say too.
Ofcourse everyone and his point of view yeah - I found it very disturbing.
It was also a nice way to check to no moderating rules of Psynews and actually I prefer them no bondages, u can spit it out and get over with it!!!
But still the way he has done it, and the way it was presented, was very dodgy, to say the least.
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HandA
Inactive User
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Posted : Mar 3, 2005 13:53
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Never throw stones at other people's houses when you yourself live in a glass-house.
So your thread here is much better than mine?
At least i dont pretend to be so political correct as you do Yuli. |
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ShivaS
IsraTrance Team
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Posted : Mar 3, 2005 14:03
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just make a search in www.psynews.org for isratrance.com and look through EP posts. We also have lot of deleted posts written here, since posts are not deleted but hidden. Of course we are not perfect and trying to improve ourselves but this was never expected that EP would take it to that height. we had lot of personal and open discussions in the past and this never ends...
I do know our forum's weak points and we are improving them though things go very slow since we all are very busy. But it would happen soon or later. and about the rest...try walking our shoes, manage small imperia with all-aged-users and think what would u do on our place.
thanks.
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darkiller
IsraTrance Junior Member
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Posted : Mar 3, 2005 14:04
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well boyz you wanna step outside... 
I really think this is unnesesary
peace to you all |
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HandA
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Posted : Mar 3, 2005 14:22
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On 2005-03-03 11:51, HandA wrote:
Now it's interesting to see if this post is allowed to stay here and if my post will be deleted while the other posts stay as they are I am looking forward to see how much doublestandard there actully are in this forum when it come to bending the rules for certain people.
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Guess I got my answer now
Does the word doublestand ring a bell here?
I guess when it's Yuli or a "good" friend then it's ok to post such threads in this fine forum without getting deleted or locked.
Now if it was something all people could do at isratrance withour getting edited, silenced, deleted or locked then I would be fine with Yuli's thread. Actually i wish it would be ok to say what you think in this forum. It would be so much better here
But come on now. By allowing this thread to be open your breaking your own rules here ShivaS
Again I am not saying you should close it. That's totally up to you. But if you can't live up to your own rules and allow your friends to "flush their durty laundry" as I am being accused to do... Then how are people ever going to respect your rules and even bother to apply to them? Think about that.
Now I am more than willing to tell you why I reacted the way i did in the first place and why I posted what i did at psynews. But I am sure you as usual dont care |
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darkiller
IsraTrance Junior Member
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Posted : Mar 3, 2005 14:36
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Its a thread about your project handa you should be proud of yourself
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shahar
IsraTrance Team
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Posted : Mar 3, 2005 14:39
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Kristian,
If you don't like this place so much, why do you keep coming here?
I can't figure this out, only answer is that for some reason you enjoy being in places you don't like, or more probably, enjoy fighting.
We don't fit each other, so let's seperate, ok? We tried explaining, we tried asking, in the end we threw you out (several times), you keep coming back. We don't fit man- leave it be.
This goes for everyone, ppl. You don't like this place or something we do with it, explain why. We're happy to accept constructive criticism (this section is especially for this, very few ppl use it though), and we try to learn from it. But there are different ways of looking at life. If we don't reach an agreement/understanding, let's go seperate ways. Makes sense, no?
There are so many trance communities ran in so many different ways. Go there. Or even better, start your own (check tribe.net), do things how you believe in them.
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"Be the change you want to see in the world!"
M.K. Gandhi
"There is only one corner of the universe you can be certain of improving, and that's your own self."
Aldous Huxley
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KakoOlalaJwal
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Posted : Mar 3, 2005 14:40
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HandA
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Posted : Mar 3, 2005 14:50
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On 2005-03-03 14:40, KakoOlalaJwal wrote:
HandA, juste one simple question..
Please try to answer clearly, and in short..
Why exactly are you spending so much energy on this ?
What are you expecting from it ?
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I will try and answer you clearly. I agree that i propelry wont get much out of it.
I am one of those people that cant stand doublestandard and react to it. Now call me naive and stupid but that's the way i was brought up. And I really see red when people accuse me of being a racist and a jew-hater! That's just very very low and a very cheap shoot!
Now the point is did anyone actually bother to understand why i reacted in the frst place? Before you judge me and call me various names I suggest you read why i reacted |
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darkiller
IsraTrance Junior Member
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Posted : Mar 3, 2005 14:54
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Handa only wants to prove that my post was not delited cause I'm a jew(handa-Irealy don't understand where is your common sense how dared you to write such a post and expect it wont be delited?!), and for some reason he fought with every single person that crosed him along the way, I tryied to explain to him some sense but man.. this is a no can do!
Handa
this is not a conspiracy against anyone
and as I told you befor they did you a big favour by deliting that one!
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