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cr1st0
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Posted : Nov 7, 2008 19:26:08
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Hi there,
What's your opinion about reaper ? You use it ?
You thinks it have better audio quality then flstudio, reason or evenb cubase 4 ?
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Nerdkiller
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Posted : Nov 7, 2008 19:41
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never.
cockos reaper is just "decent"
reaper is cheap, lightweight and has a lot of interesting features. I gave it a try when I was starting at producing.
Don't think you should carry it on to professional usage. imo
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-aeon-
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Posted : Nov 8, 2008 11:15
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it's an extremely capable professional audio product, imho.
1. parameter modulation
use any audio control signal to modulate any parameter. with independent envelopes, threshold, knee, direction and strength settings. and dedicated LFOs.
it's like sidechain 2.0. you can use the output from a synth to modulate the chorus depth on a guitar part, or the kick to open your lead synth's filter... every single automatable parameter can be modulated this way, with independent controls for each. fancy an LFO that fucks with master stereo width, shifts the cutoff on a vocal filter, pans a guitar track and makes delay lama go 'oooaaah'?
2. if you will it, it is no dream
the rate of development is unparalleled. every few weeks there's an update; in one month we got more new features than Ableton added to Live in a year, and for *no* extra cost. the interaction between the dev team and users is incredible; basically, if you want a feature, if it makes sense and it's possible - it will probably be done.
this means that heaps of funky useful little features get implemented, some cribbed from other DAWs, some unique. the REAPER team's approach ('don't let profits and clunky upgrade schemes get in the way of development') means that interesting stuff gets done with this software... for example, you can record directly to FLAC, Ogg Vorbis, or Monkey's Audio. and the CPU performance meter is broken down by plugin, and enables you to toggle/bypass individual plugins to see where you're using your resources.
3. some *ace* plugins
there are heaps of interesting functional 'Rea-' prefixed plugins bundled with REAPER. ReaFIR is an infinite-band realtime EQ / compressor / analyser which kicks serious ass. ReaRoute allows you to send audio from one DAW to another (e.g. use Ableton Live rewired with working plugins!!!!) or from one computer to another over a network for CPU saving. everything is 64-bit, and all native plugs support multiple channels; so you can easily split and process 64 channels within each track! many of the Jesusonic plugins are primarily intended as guitar FX. but there are also some really interesting signal splitting and processing plugs - and the best thing is that they're all editable. as in you can code them from the ground up, within the REAPER environment...
the Schwa and Stillwell plugins (optimised for, and cheaper, as REAPER-only versions) are ace. forgive me for posting the most eye-candyish ones, but check it:
Sculpto: draw Bezier curves over your audio waveform to create envelope shapes to follow or clip to. Clean errors, sharpen transients, or design entirely new sounds. All in real time.
All Hail Spectro, Eater of Galaxies!An intuitive, real-time spectral editor. Draw boxes to add or subtract gain, mute, or solo specific frequency ranges. Clean up accidental room noise, remove harmonic bleed, perform surgical EQ, de-ess, or get creative and combine additive filters for some truly wild effects. It can be anything from a scalpel to a bludgeon.
4. routing
REAPER makes no distinction between midi and audio; you can send anything anywhere. you can freely position items over a number of tracks. the routing is just super flexible, and the routing matrix provides a supercool mixing environment - you can instantly see which channel is recording/sending/receiving, where from and where to; you can re-route and create new routings, and access pan/volume/tap/fader settings for each routing. fuck it, it's easier to copy from the feature spiel:
- Tracks can be viewed and used as normal tracks, or....
- Each track can function as a track and as a bus
- Each track can send to any number of other tracks (unlimited multiple parallel sends*)
- Each track can send to any number of hardware outputs (mono or stereo) for monitoring or analog mixing
- Every send can send audio and/or MIDI, audio sends can be before FX, after FX, or after the track's volume/pan faders
- Every send has its own volume/pan/phase controls
- Tracks can have as many as 64 channels, for easy support of multi-out VSTi, as well as enormous sidechain flexibility
- Feedback routing is supported
5. actions
as i understand it (i haven't had time to explore fully myself yet) you can chain infinite sequences of user macros together in context-specific keyboard shortcuts. this means you can, for example, make a 1-key shortcut so that when you hover over a media item, the item is split at the mouse position, rendered as a new take with item FX, inserted in a new track and saved. the list of actions is huge, and you can have interactive macros (e.g. reverse item, open per-item FX - pause: prompt user to insert FX - then render & lock... all with 1 keyboard shortcut). i think this is going to prove seriously useful...
6. business model
REAPER is available as an uncrippled, unlimited demo; if you use it for more than 30 days, you're supposed to register. there are two licenses, non-commercial ($40) and commercial ($200). each gets you two full increments (e.g. i bought 2.41, so i'll be licensed up to 3.99) which, given the astonishing rate of feature implementation, is an amazing deal. the best bit is that the entire thing is based on a fluid and honest system. Justin, the head of the company, has even said in interviews that if you're selling 10 copies of your album, you don't need a commercial license; if you're shifting 1000 they'd appreciate it if you bought one.
it's also still only a 3.2mb installer, and can be run from a USB flash drive. it's pretty damn fast as well; load times are minimal and it seems to be able to handle as much as i can throw at it.
7. skins
you can design your own colour themes and icons, to be distributed via the REAPER stashbox. major elements of colour themes can also be edited within REAPER, so if you *love* a skin but can't bear the meter colours, you can change them. people have done Logic, Cubase and Live inspired themes... but the best of them are just new and wonderful.
i know it's silly, but i just take a huge amount of pleasure from any DAW which lets you design or use a 'blackboard' theme:
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-aeon-
Aeon
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Posted : Nov 8, 2008 11:16
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p.s. check with Medea, he is a REAPER guru  |
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orange
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Posted : Nov 8, 2008 23:07
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i have being testing it for the past few days and i can only say this is one capable sequencer!
but i have some points to mention..
although its easy to get the basics and start making music i find some work flows to be rather awkward..
like when recordind midi from a vsti the damn thing keeps adding midi patterns everywhere..??? ive read the manual (not extensively) and didn't find the solution!
automation is easy though not like flstudio but definitely a lot better than cubase.
audio handling is kinda weird and no internal audio editor (means more time to do things)
real time preview of audio files is very welcome but editing or fitting to time with loops is veeery flimsy to say the least!
cant detach the mixer (probably my fault)
piano roll is ok.. could be better!
quantize is ok but keeps popping out that dialog every time!
mixer is fine and re sizable but not very accurate!
sound wise till now sounds ok and vsti support is great all plugs work smooth and fl runs better as a plugin within reaper than ever did inside cubase!
cpu efficient and very stable (no crash yet)
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PoM
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Posted : Nov 8, 2008 23:52
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some anoying bugs and the interface could look better but reaper have lot of cool features ,things like tab to transient or move cursor to next/previous zero crossing point ,bounce a clip with ctr alt drag,you can make your custom actions ( shortcut for a list of actions ,like select all the clips in the loop move cursor at end of the loop point and copy paste just by pressing one key...the possiblity are endless) ,screensets , amazing routing, easy sidechaining,parameters modulation...many many features taken from all popular daws ( maybe none from cubase  )
ps:orange most things you mentioned can be set in the preference. |
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Kane
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Posted : Nov 9, 2008 09:57
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I would rather use Reaper than FL or Reason. The low price and fact that it will run pretty well (at least better than Live or Cubase) with Wine and WineASIO in Linux are its only benefits, imo.
You believe in the users?
Yeah, sure. If I don't have a user, then who wrote me? |
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Medea
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Posted : Nov 9, 2008 12:32
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On 2008-11-08 11:16, -aeon- wrote:
p.s. check with Medea, he is a REAPER guru
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haha yes, using it from 0.9x versions...
Honestly, i don't use most of it's latest cool features, but i can say that when I write tracks I just don't notice Reaper. It's just working in background as a host for VST's, midi and audio and lets me to focus on music, not software\hardware...
I think all DAW's a good these days and it's all a matter of taste and addiction. Reaper for sure is one of 100% professional software products, it's being used in a lot of studios in USA as a main DAW for recording and editing audio.
Some people complain that it's MIDI workflow suffers from lack of features, but honestly i don't know where exactly;). Works fine for me as midi-application.
Try before buy anyways 
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Kane
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Posted : Nov 9, 2008 12:56
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^ I thought you had to spend thousands to make good music?
You believe in the users?
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ohshit
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Posted : Jun 23, 2010 17:33
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i am bumping this thread just to point out the speed of REAPER development:
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There have been 16 official releases so far in 2010, which is a new release on average every 11 days.
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Almost every morning i find a new release. Never seen nothing like this.
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Kryten
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Posted : Jun 23, 2010 17:51
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On 2010-06-23 17:33, ohshit wrote:
i am bumping this thread just to point out the speed of REAPER development:
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| There have been 108 prerelease builds posted so far in 2010, which is a new build every 1.6 days on average. There has been a new build posted every day for the past 5 days.
There have been 16 official releases so far in 2010, which is a new release on average every 11 days.
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Almost every morning i find a new release. Never seen nothing like this.
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Impressive, indeed. But keep in mind that this doesn't need to be a good thing. I doubt that you can do a real quality QS of such a software in this short time.
The more releases = more possible bugs and flaws.
Ranting aside, these descriptions sound quite cool. I will surely have a look at it if theres a good demo.
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demoniac
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Posted : Jun 23, 2010 18:39
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ohshit
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Posted : Jun 23, 2010 18:41
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Release early, release often (sometimes abbreviated RERO) is a software development philosophy that emphasizes the importance of early and frequent releases in creating a tight feedback loop between developers and testers or users. Advocates argue that this allows the software development to progress faster, enables the user to help define what the software will become, better conforms to the users' requirements for the software,[1] and ultimately results in higher quality software.[2] This philosophy was popularized by Eric S. Raymond in his 1997 essay The Cathedral and the Bazaar...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Release_early,_release_often
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ohshit
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Posted : Jun 23, 2010 18:45
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On 2010-06-23 18:39, demoniac wrote:
Is there a scissor?
pitch shift?
reverse? time strech?
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yes, you can build your buttons and associate an action (as i did) or simply press the S key.
The other answers are yes, yes again, and hell yeah there is the most simply time stretch that i've tried (just press the alt key and stretch the sample as you want)
Try it! The demo is unlimited (in ANY way)!
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Medea
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Posted : Jun 23, 2010 19:12
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Reaper has a hypnotic effect: almost everyone who uses it promotes it hardly for some reason
Btw, it's the only software i have paid for so far.
PS
After two years since my post above i still can say all the same
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