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Ascension
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Posted : Mar 31, 2010 22:45:04
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For some reason after I record midi from one channel to audio on another Ableton starts slowing down significantly. It will clip when I play over the audio clips in the track too. Not really sure what the problem is here, my cpu% also appears to go up, but it will clip when playing the audio samples at like 40%, which it doesn't do at other times at that percentage.
I'm running Ableton 8 on a pc. This is with audio from any midi input. I've got about 22 gigs free on my hd too so that's not getting cluttered.
I posted this on the Ableton forums too.
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willsanquil
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Posted : Apr 1, 2010 03:48
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Not sure if this will help, but what method are you using for bouncing?
Freezing the original then pasting to an audio, or recording the midi track to another audio-track in realtime? |
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Ascension
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Posted : Apr 1, 2010 16:09
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Posted : Apr 1, 2010 19:15
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had these issues for several times and in my case it was just shutting down input (after record), and sample buffer rate back to 512 or 1024 samples.
if im working with lots of audio i need sometimes to get to 1024 samples, if i wanna use midi mostly i need 512 or lower, so it´s not clippin or stuff. try around with that, guess it will be your solution cause usually ableton becomes faster and more "quite" if you bounce stuff. also could be helpful to save audio to RAM if it´s gettin buisy.
let me know, cheers
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Ascension
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Posted : Apr 1, 2010 21:08
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Awesome, thanks for the suggestions, that's exactly what I was looking for.
Irregardless I think I'm gonna have to reformat before my next live set anyway. If I don't fix this, it'll at least serve as some motivation to reformat .
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Axis Mundi
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Posted : Apr 2, 2010 01:14
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Have you been muting/switching off audio output on the MIDI channels after you have rendered?
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-=Mandari=-
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Posted : Apr 2, 2010 10:58
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On 2010-04-02 01:14, Axis Mundi wrote:
Have you been muting/switching off audio output on the MIDI channels after you have rendered?
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just delete if there´s no need to keep..... anyways, i´m sure this wouldnt solve the problem.
cheerz, glad if that helped
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Ascension
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Posted : Apr 2, 2010 15:58
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On 2010-04-02 01:14, Axis Mundi wrote:
Have you been muting/switching off audio output on the MIDI channels after you have rendered?
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I delete them when I'm done. Hopefully I can come to some sort of conclusion to this, this weekend. From the replies I got on the Ableton forum I'm agreeing that it's most likely just my hard drive having aids.
I don't think this will do anything, but I saw there is a "clip update rate" option in the ableton options. It wasn't under the audio tab, but does this value affect performance? Can anyone explain to me what that value does anyway, searching for that answer got me no where.
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Axis Mundi
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Posted : Apr 25, 2010 20:58
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On 2010-04-02 10:58, -=Mandari=- wrote:
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On 2010-04-02 01:14, Axis Mundi wrote:
Have you been muting/switching off audio output on the MIDI channels after you have rendered?
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just delete if there´s no need to keep..... anyways, i´m sure this wouldnt solve the problem.
cheerz, glad if that helped
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No need to delete... if an audio instrument/plugin chain isn't processing any audio, ableton shunts CPU from it, so you can technically have 50+ chains going on and as long as none of them aren't processing audio in that moment, they will use almost 0% CPU.
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TimeTraveller
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Posted : Apr 27, 2010 22:26
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Does it make sense when not bouncing but automating on midi files the mute knob when possible?(..in Ableton life for releasing cpu ..)
I'll go for bouncing each file at end but it is hard to reach often an end in my experiments hehe..
In cubase I bounce as fast as possible, in ableton i like to be more careful cause of eventual changings of settings etc and it seems to me it is generally all better for cpu..
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Ascension
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Posted : Apr 30, 2010 15:50
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I actually have another semi related anomaly. When I turn multiprocessor support on, I get some crackles from my monitors. When I turn it off the crackle goes away, but the cpu usage doubles.
Any idea what's up with that?
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Axis Mundi
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Posted : May 2, 2010 19:57
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I've recently been figuring out a technigue which is going a long way to managemy laptop's CPU load while retaining everything in MIDI as long as possible. Using clip automation envelopes and program/bank change numbers to switch presets and effects chains (using ableton racks and chain selector), I've been able to keep a LOT more instruments and VSTs in my project than before.
It takes a bit of work to set up, but I'm getting the hang of it so it's starting to go quicker, plus once I'm done I have assloads of clips which can be dropped into a live set.
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