or ääähm..... sure there are tons of these on youtube from people around the globe AND just have a look on the ableton site
good luck, see later
cheers
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thanks for the video, anyway ive been trying to do some kick and bass,but damn its hard,i've been using a vsti called TAL-ELE7ro
Sounds horrible,not even close to a psytrance bass and kick!
panike
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Posted : Oct 11, 2009 16:08
Just let me start saying that I am a beginner like you.
I think you are going way too fast IMO.
There are lots of information in this forum that can help you as it has been said before.
I consider myself a beginner and spend lot of time reading stuff. I would suggest you do do the following as a starting point:
1. Learn how to use Ableton first.Knowing how to properly use your main DAW helps a lot.There´s a bigass manual and lot´s of videos on youtube etc.
2. At the same time you are learning about how to use live, read about the frequency spectrum and eq. (equalize). It´s all about it. A normal sound can become a great sound if you know how to eq it and place it in your song.
In general people that rush too much tend to give up as they think that making music is easy and something that they will learn to do really fast, but in my opinion this is not the case, specially in psychedelic music.
You will have to spend a lot of time learning things, and the more things you learn the more you´ll realize how many things you still need\can learn.
Hope this helps!
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Your bass is not a bass... it is a raw sawtooth wave.
You need to adjust filter envelope to make it sound tight, play with how much this envelope is being triggered each note; knob is usually called env mod / depth / level. Also get quality kicks or better learn to create them.
Also play with velocities, group compress kick n bass, eq, distortion, layering, blah, blah, blah mother of all basslines, blah, blah...
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thanks for the video, anyway ive been trying to do some kick and bass,but damn its hard,i've been using a vsti called TAL-ELE7ro
Sounds horrible,not even close to a psytrance bass and kick!
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you´re weclome mate, any time please really give the dvd "hands on synthsound" a try, it´s the best tutorial stuff for beginners imo and exists in many different languages. its starting from the very beginning in many differed chapters from first like what is a sound ending up in fm modulations and creating any sound u like (i.e. hatz,snares,kick,bass as supposed to be the most important ones ....
the video i learned even after years the most stuff about music in shortest time, easiest way and possible to have a look again and again if u dont understand anything right at the moment. and sure its much more fun having a dvd than reading on a screen or a book. i mean at least the guy is showing u how to apply all stuff u learned in all these chapters to any synth of your choice. i dont care if u try or buy, but i think it´s really worth it´s money....
anyway u will find if u want i guess
another nice one is the infected mushroom kickdrum tutorial or have a look here :
panike
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Posted : Oct 13, 2009 20:31
thanks daniels i've been reading some information etc etc
thanks acidus for the tips.
And thanks mandari
more news from me soon
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I think for beginners the real quest is to find how your sequencer aids you in aligning your midi notes or samples. So definately look into quantisation.
I can only recommend watching to some of these tunes:
I like that guy btw
anway, check out trackers. You'll find lots of nice music and the big advantage: it's easy to analyze the tunes and what they exactly did. Something that's quite hard in sequencer world as it's often impossible to have the same exact setup and you get a nice samplelib on the way.
I work also with live and quite alot of what trackers teach you are back again in live...
look into milky tracker and grab some old modarchive tunes ^^
another thing I like to give on the way is to think about gaps/silence in your music. I often listen to my old music / and new (sigh) ... I subconsiously try to cram in too many sounds. So keep it simple. The complex things come soon.
Obviously sampling, synthesis... but don't forget your biggest weapon. composition
and hey, it should stay fun. always fun. and don't call your bassline crappy... it's your bassline... Version 1-10! I'm on Version 2595 and it can still improve.
I should keep these posts shorter ^^
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panike
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On 2009-10-13 21:25, sideFXed wrote:
I think for beginners the real quest is to find how your sequencer aids you in aligning your midi notes or samples. So definately look into quantisation.
I can only recommend watching to some of these tunes:
anway, check out trackers. You'll find lots of nice music and the big advantage: it's easy to analyze the tunes and what they exactly did. Something that's quite hard in sequencer world as it's often impossible to have the same exact setup and you get a nice samplelib on the way.
I work also with live and quite alot of what trackers teach you are back again in live...
look into milky tracker and grab some old modarchive tunes ^^
another thing I like to give on the way is to think about gaps/silence in your music. I often listen to my old music / and new (sigh) ... I subconsiously try to cram in too many sounds. So keep it simple. The complex things come soon.
Obviously sampling, synthesis... but don't forget your biggest weapon. composition
and hey, it should stay fun. always fun. and don't call your bassline crappy... it's your bassline... Version 1-10! I'm on Version 2595 and it can still improve.
thanks 
