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Ableton Live render quality

aciduss
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Posted : Oct 20, 2009 18:16:15

Hi... what do you Ableton users can tell about this? I've been comparing Cubase vs Ableton rendering same VSTs i almost can say Cubase is shinnier.

I don't want to begin DAW war... just to know what is your experience because i find ableton little little dull when rendering.

Ascension
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Posted : Oct 20, 2009 18:23

Which version of Ableton are you using? I haven't done any comparisons, but technically Live 8 was supposed to fix a lot of rendering problems that were present before.

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aciduss
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Posted : Oct 20, 2009 18:25

Uedi
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Posted : Oct 20, 2009 18:36

What about choosing "No Dither" on Live render?

Alien Bug
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Posted : Oct 20, 2009 21:06

Yes, Cubase many times sounds shinner with compared to other DAWs. I dont compare C5 with Live8 but now, when im user of Live8 i can only say that i dont find anything bad in rendering. rendered file sounds same like unrednered, played in Live.
With dither or without

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aciduss
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Posted : Oct 21, 2009 05:01

I don't agree with:

"rendered file sounds same like unrednered, played in Live. "

Live sound pretty different at the mix than when rendered imho, most daws do.

Alien Bug
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Posted : Oct 21, 2009 16:56

Quote:

On 2009-10-21 05:01, aciduss wrote:
Live sound pretty different at the mix than when rendered imho, most daws do.

I didnt hear the differences (Cubase SX3 and Live 7 & 8)

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Ascension
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Posted : Oct 21, 2009 17:47

What exactly sounds better in a track rendered with Cubase compared to Ableton? I don't have Cubase to test it, so I'm curious.

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aciduss
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Posted : Oct 21, 2009 18:53

I will do my test again... and upload it so you can listen.

Axis Mundi
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Posted : Oct 21, 2009 19:32

I'd be willing to bet that people who say rendering is inferior in Live 8 have warping turned on all of their clips, which under most circumstances doesn't need to be on.

There are a lot of artists who have produced their whole albums in Ableton and you wouldn't be able to tell the difference just by listening.

aciduss
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Posted : Oct 22, 2009 04:11

It was dither. Thank you... now i got same quality than in cubase... but if i look close to waveforms they still look a little different one from the other, nothing i can really hear tho.

0hz
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Posted : Oct 22, 2009 20:52

Quote:

On 2009-10-22 04:11, aciduss wrote:
It was dither. Thank you... now i got same quality than in cubase... but if i look close to waveforms they still look a little different one from the other, nothing i can really hear tho.

they look different probably because u use vsti that have free osc.

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