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Ableton live crashed....during a live set

Dharma Lab


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Posted : Oct 6, 2009 19:58
Do Mac's have crash logs and/or any system logs you can check??           Keep The Faith,
Christian K.
bandarlog
Bandarlog

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Posted : Oct 6, 2009 20:29
Which vst's were you running? Because if anything goes wrong, most of the times it's some crappy vst's fault...           http://www.soundcloud.com/bandarlog
http://www.ektoplazm.com/free-music/bandarlog-memoirs-of-the-moment
Greententacle
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Posted : Oct 6, 2009 22:23
only sends were used (all from live)
2x reverb
3x delay

Cpu load about 2-3%
allots of audio
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bandarlog
Bandarlog

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Posted : Oct 6, 2009 23:46
Did the disk overload indicator give any signal?


Cause my sound halted once when using about 3.5 gigs of wavs in one project          http://www.soundcloud.com/bandarlog
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the daleks
The Daleks

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Posted : Oct 7, 2009 08:29
Quote:

On 2009-10-06 16:01, Uedi wrote:
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Can personal stress and nervous bad vibes influence computers??
It fuses lamps!




i believe so!

seriously though, I was having some issues with live crashing, and during quite a few lives, I got the unfortunate nickname of 'Mr Stop'

its definitely possible and sucks. so I started tweaking my system. the first step was to unload as much bus-powered stuff to proper adaptors. still had a few crashes

next step, looked at my plugins. buying a legit copy of Stylus brought more stability, but still an occasional crash

in the end I found it was a PCI-USB card that I used for the remote SL. changing that to a simple USB breakout bus seemed to solve it, ironically, since I thought having a dedicated USB would be stabler

so it can be a number of things, and how Live interacts with the OS, and how the OS interacts with the hardware. any number of things can cause a panic...

i also contacted both Ableton and Spectrasonics support and gave them all the crash reports logs etc, but they didnt really have an answer for it... so not always the experts know either.

try to remember what happened when it crashed, what you touched did, etc and go from there. then take some of the steps I did and see if that helps

i was always under the impression that running bus-powered stuff was convenient and the way to to, but running a 'hot' bus can destabilize the system so better to use adaptors wherever possible

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Dharma Lab


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Posted : Oct 7, 2009 19:16
I could be wrong, as I'm no Mac expert (not even a mac user), but I've heard of a few known issues with drives on mac laptops over the years from friends: like the OS not handling bad sectors gracefully in certain circumstances, to vibrations kicking off a 'drive head lock' safety feature. There's always your normal run of the mill bad drive stuff.

On a windows machine I would fire up some diagnostic/system monitoring software & look at things like disk & file I/O. Anything like that available for Mac?

Sporadic problems that you can't reproduce with any consistency are always a pain in butt to troubleshoot. I always take extensive notes with scenarios like that.           Keep The Faith,
Christian K.
Glitch_CapeTown
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Posted : Oct 10, 2009 08:21
u plan to fail, u fail to plan, u came with extra CD's then u my friend are to thank
a buddy of mine in his live set a few years back, ableton crashed and he had no CD's so he had to exit out, and get back in.... the crowd disappeared
i had a very crappy version of ableton which crashed quite a bit, but i have found one thats more or less stable now           [[[G|L|I|T|C|H]]]
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http://www.ektoplazm.com/free-music/glitch-tales-from-the-script
http://www.ektoplazm.com/2011/glitch-higher-definition
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