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A Track From Scratch....

ucc
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Posted : Aug 5, 2005 04:15
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On 2005-08-04 21:09, Colin OOOD wrote:
I start off by deciding how long I want the track to be, then I create an empty stereo 32-bit 44.1KHz .wav in Soundforge of that length. I zoom right in and select the pencil tool, and start drawing...



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Obviously, the other way of doing it is by starting off with a large solid block of purest white noise, and start carving...


keyop
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Posted : Aug 5, 2005 13:18
I read somewhere that Royksopp like to write their tracks without a beat to start with.

Something i keep on meaning to try as i ALWAYS start with the kick and bass (yawn)
sy000321
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Posted : Aug 5, 2005 13:22

most of my tracks come after 2/3 hours of pure garbadge, until i get some hooks that i think will make a track that people would like to hear

of course i always start with bass and kick and try to make variations as soon as possible as those seem to get harder when the track is more developed


every thing else is as said here before
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Posted : Aug 5, 2005 15:21
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On 2005-08-05 03:32, uccpd wrote:
agreed here... sometimes, not that often, jsut being playing with a synth just for the fun of it, tweaking knobs to get the patch of the day , that may be the sufficient to start on a new composition


so far all my tracks start this way, playing with a synth and getting something interesting out. i tried starting with kick and bass once but found out that it doesn't work for me (the result was crap), as i didn't have enough "information" so as to create the percussions and general groove (also the bass). these elements (percs/bassline/groove) are derived from the melody or main synth line, at least for me that is...

p.s. btw, very informative post Saimon!           .
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phobium
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Posted : Aug 5, 2005 15:47
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Posted : Aug 5, 2005 22:36
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On 2005-08-04 21:09, Colin OOOD wrote:
I start off by deciding how long I want the track to be, then I create an empty stereo 32-bit 44.1KHz .wav in Soundforge of that length. I zoom right in and select the pencil tool, and start drawing...




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divraj
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Posted : Aug 6, 2005 08:00
start off with writing 4 bars of

1) kick and bass
2) synths - main anf fxy
3) fx
4) percussion
5) pads , atmos

then write the track making all those small imp variations and modulation

then add swoops , revs , crashes , those reverses


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NikC
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Posted : Aug 6, 2005 16:40
well i seem to do it pretty differently...
I start with what I feel should be the beginning, and work my way to the end... changing and manipulating as I want.
I don't make loop blocks etc. from the beginning, just "go with the flow" so to speak... As long as you know how a scale works it's easy, and you can change the bassline to suit a melody that suddenly erupts in your head!           www.myspace.com/beat_nik
5Meo-Geo
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Posted : Aug 6, 2005 18:59
1: choose chord and harmonic progression
2: making basic pad + bass scetch
3: begin to build a track with percs
4: building the tracks sceleton of drums, bass, pads with building some melodies on the way
5: after track sceleton made begin to add sound fx and funky groves           Jesus didnt dance,but his beat goes on
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martyn
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Posted : Aug 6, 2005 19:45
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On 2005-08-05 01:10, Colin OOOD wrote:
Obviously, the other way of doing it is by starting off with a large solid block of purest white noise, and start carving...




Subtractive songwriting? Interesting idea, I'll try it...           www.myspace.com/mentris
pH_
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Posted : Aug 6, 2005 23:12
no real order for me, whatever flows out goes down. lately ive been starting with a pad+bassline+kick, then some percs and other light things to get things moving.

i usually end up with a pile of layers that melt together nice, and design the track with those pieces

i hope that made some sense
Elad
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Posted : Aug 7, 2005 08:27
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On 2005-08-06 18:59, 5Meo-Geo wrote:
1: choose chord and harmonic progression



imho.. naturally first step

but scales seem not to be important for most trance artist

well i go like this:

1.choose scale or 2 that fit together

2.bassline

3.kick

4.percussions

now i have the loop its time to tweek and make some solo's
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5Meo-Geo
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Posted : Aug 7, 2005 14:02
yo tzab u know im not like most artists
but u right novadays trance is 1 note bassline and thats why its so sux
chordss and harmonics important if u gona do different parts with different atmosfere and give feeling for different emotions so its too impotrant imho

check my last one ...
http://s49.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=17IMJQGAXNSTR1BVYO6B8AW8ZY

its totaly basic 2 chord progression and its still do the trick           Jesus didnt dance,but his beat goes on
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index
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Posted : Aug 7, 2005 14:59
Nice to have u into the forum Genetic Spin
daniel duarte
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Posted : Aug 7, 2005 18:18
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On 2005-08-04 21:09, Colin OOOD wrote:
I start off by deciding how long I want the track to be, then I create an empty stereo 32-bit 44.1KHz .wav in Soundforge of that length. I zoom right in and select the pencil tool, and start drawing...





I almost fell of my chair laughing
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