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A tip for making music "flow"

Maine Coon
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Posted : Dec 1, 2010 20:49
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On 2010-12-01 20:12, dj chichke wrote:

99% of the music is built on 8 bars sections. you can't divide 8 with 3. or 8 with 5. i can devide 8 bars to 4 or 2 bars loops.



That’s exactly the point of Medea’s method:
1) Break away from the 8-bar stereotype
2) Layer your standard-length loops with other loops of strange length, so that the listener gets tricked and does not perceive “loopiness” of your music.

If you overlay a 4-bar loop with another 4-bar loop and a 2-bar loop, you’ll hear the repetitive structure of all three loops. If you overlay a 4-bar loop with a 3-bar loop and a 5-bar loop, the resulting combination repeats itself only after 60 bars. So, listeners are tricked into hearing a long evolving part, rather than an endlessly repeating 4-bar bit.

Cool trick!
dj chichke
Chichke

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Posted : Dec 1, 2010 23:18
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On 2010-12-01 20:49, Maine Coon wrote:
Quote:

On 2010-12-01 20:12, dj chichke wrote:

99% of the music is built on 8 bars sections. you can't divide 8 with 3. or 8 with 5. i can devide 8 bars to 4 or 2 bars loops.



That’s exactly the point of Medea’s method:
1) Break away from the 8-bar stereotype
2) Layer your standard-length loops with other loops of strange length, so that the listener gets tricked and does not perceive “loopiness” of your music.

If you overlay a 4-bar loop with another 4-bar loop and a 2-bar loop, you’ll hear the repetitive structure of all three loops. If you overlay a 4-bar loop with a 3-bar loop and a 5-bar loop, the resulting combination repeats itself only after 60 bars. So, listeners are tricked into hearing a long evolving part, rather than an endlessly repeating 4-bar bit.

Cool trick!




thanks for the explanation. i will give it a chance           http://www.youtube.com/user/ChichkeMultiTech
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Plasmorh
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Posted : Dec 2, 2010 06:03
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On 2010-11-29 20:17, dj chichke wrote:
i don't understand how can you work with 3 or 5 bar's loop? it's not feet in 8 bars. do you understand what i'm saying?




it has to? )

music is free.... u can even make a 26 beat progression music...... or even 17 xDDD itll get weird, but its still music....

music is math... if 5+7=3 then its abstract music xD           I want a spare brain.... or 2.
mcmasterbates


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Posted : Dec 4, 2010 14:30
1 bar = 1 whole note = 4 kicks in 4/4!

To the topic: It really doesn't matter what the time signature or tempo is. What you gotta focus on is creating a hypnotic pulse that grooves.

Once BPMs start to climb, it's hard to maintain that pulse/groove in 4/4. That's why D'n B can groove at 180 BPM, but a 4/4 kick can't.

Hypnotic pulse = infinity loop. Something that'll keep your head nodding for a long period without feeling stagnant. Once you find that loop, make variations to THAT, and then your sh*t will come together.

Peace
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