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Hg
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Posted : Apr 6, 2003 22:01
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Hello everyone!
At what quality is music played in the Dj sets?
What is the CD quality? DVD is the same for music, right?
I was wondering: If I record a data CD with music in MP3 (192Kbps quality, for example) and I use a poor media. When I record this MP3 into an audio CD, will the quality still be 192kbps?
Thanks in advance!
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Anak
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Posted : Apr 6, 2003 22:05
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medir
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Posted : Apr 6, 2003 22:34
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...what s lost is lost...like anakoluth written.
btw; 192 is the minimum...
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Chi
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Posted : Apr 6, 2003 22:41
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Music played in djsets is cd quality, 1500 kbit.
Top mp3 quality is 320kbit, which is 90% similar to cd quality.
and after mp3 compression you can de-compress to wav but the frequencies that have been removed won't return |
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TiMMY
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Posted : Apr 6, 2003 22:45
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Yes...
Quality goes down a little in every "conversion" process. However, when you write a mp3 file on cd, no meter how bad it is, you'll here the same quality as the mp3 or as any other digital media you'll copy it to.
The reason is simple - CDs are digital which means it either works or it doesn't...
DVD is media which is capable of storing data in various ways. so, if you store MP3 on DVD, it will sound like MP3. If you store WAV on DVD, it will sound like WAV.
according to r3mix.net, CD quality is equivalent to MP3 quality 256kbps, most people won't hear the difference between 192kbps and 256kbps though...
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bilbobagginz
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Posted : Apr 7, 2003 08:12
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At what quality is music played in the Dj sets?
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depends what the DJ is using:
if CD - 16 bit at 44.1khz
if DAT - can be 24 bit/96khz
if vinyl - analogue[depends on who created the music of course]
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What is the CD quality?
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i answered this.
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DVD is the same for music, right?
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no.
u can write more on a DVD, so u can create a 5.1 Surround album on a DVD at CD quality each channel.
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I was wondering: If I record a data CD with music in MP3 (192Kbps quality, for example) and I use a poor media. When I record this MP3 into an audio CD, will the quality still be 192kbps?
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when you convert your mp3 files into wav->cdda format they turn into CD audio files - 1500 kbps, but something could happen to them:
when u convert into mp3 your audio - maybe without knowing it you filter some harmonics. this means you loose them.so after recreating you don't have them.
if u use a good mp3 encoder, and encode at high rate - 320/192 the result will be almost identical - only audio professional with spectrum analyzer will be able to feel the difference [if she had the original]
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monno
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don't know about quality loss , don't believe in it coz all is digital aka numbers and numbers can't be changed but they moving a little to create more space
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whatever! compression is compression and neither good or less good arguments can change that. as to audio resolution i work in 24/48 and i am already pissed about having to dither when i want to put my stuff on a cd.
what we need is not mp3 bla bla bla. what we need is a better format for playing back digital music in higher resolution. the cd format has been around since 1978 i do believe that it has lived out it´s usefullness.
the thing to look to now is players with harddiscs and possibly dvd audio players.
wishful thinking i know but i also know that it is possible all it needs is a large enough market(and quality minded people)
mp3 is for internet promo and kiddie dj´s.
imagine how pissed i would get if i knew that someone was playing my music, getting paid for it and on top of that has the audacity to play an mp3 version??? wtf. is the point for me to try to improve the overall soundquality when people don´t give a shit? maybe it´s just me i dunno.
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Hg
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Posted : Apr 7, 2003 18:23
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Thank you you all for the replies! Really helped and clarified some issues for me!
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sam i am
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Posted : Dec 5, 2006 07:51
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Why isn't anyone mentioning vinyl? People forget were it all started from so easy?
You can take your tune as a data CD in 24bit 19-you name it-KHz resolution to the cutting room were the engineer will have no problem loading it up on his/her system and cut you a fine piece of vinyl that will sound excellent!
Do not forget...Vinyl still sounds amazing!
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Posted : Dec 5, 2006 21:27
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There is one small issue to keep in mind: Not all MP3 decoders are made equal. The one built in to one of those DJ decks that can playback MP3s might not be as good as some software decoders (and vice versa).
As for higher than CD quality, who cares? No PA system is good enough for it to make a difference. Even most studio monitors are not good enough to reveal any difference and when they are, most humans can't tell the difference.
What people DO hear is the difference in cheap converters running at 44.1Khz or 96Khz. Instead of going for higher bandwidth and higher bit depth, it would be much more beneficial to spend a bit more money on the converters so that they sound better at 44.1Khz.
Of course we don't have much control over the quality of the converters in DJ equipment so we are kind of stuck with what we have ...
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Posted : Dec 5, 2006 21:29
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Oh and vinyl? Sounds like shit. I prefer 320Kbps MP3. It certainly has a larger dynamic range and a larger frequency response than vinyl so forget the "it's analogue" argument because it is totaly bogus.
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Freeflow
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Posted : Dec 5, 2006 22:20
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i heard or read somewhere that Vinly dont reproduce frequencies above 16khz
is that true?
i think that might be why people think it sounds smoother and not so edgy?
any answers
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UnderTow
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Posted : Dec 5, 2006 22:25
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It depends a bit on the pressing but yes, 16Khz is a good bet for your average vinyl. And then when you have played it a few times, it gets worse and worse.
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