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tigga
IsraTrance Junior Member
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Posted : Sep 9, 2003 08:09
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From afar I have been reading the posts in the UK forum with some dismay and sadness and something made me want to post but I
realized that it had all been said before, so over a little time a broader view came about.
I feel very sad when the current situation occurs, but when viewed from a distance without personal attachment one can see it
happening more and more, and it is consistent with the greater world. Money is dominating peoples’ lives to such an extent that it puts and individual’s concerns at the top of the list. It breaks apart community and this is what can be seen to be happening now in the uk trance community. Those who are not so well off and travelled far for the party are spitting blood and will do anything to bad mouth the organizers, while others remember the previous parties by the same organizers with fondness.
The increasing commercialization of the southern uk based scene is pulling people away from the smaller festis and local parties
and into clubs and international festivals with the line up promises of big names. When inevitably an act does not show the most common comment is I paid X quid for this, I know because I have done it myself in the past. The same has happened here – when you place a price tag on an event there becomes and expectation and you have created a vision of what will occur and the more the price tag the better it will be (in western thinking – more money = better).
The parties I have organized have always been free or on a donation basis and filled with names of friends and as a result there is no massive over hyping and yet people enjoy these more local and low key parties because by the end of the party you know most of the people that were there. This reminds me of the early liquid parties - donation based, with many local and unknown djs (who is Shane Gobi?) but were just plain wicked -
clearly many of you remember these too.
From my point of view What the collective have done this time contravenes the reality of organising Uk parties. Written permission of the land owner is NOT enough, and actually fairly useless against the police. I have been busted with permission of a court of law to be where we were. As we found out, the main problem is really noise complaints and this allowed the police to
use CS gas and beat the sh*t out of some friends to stop the party. So the biggest priority must be to have a site that will not have noise complaints as they can use to stop a party before it has even started. So anyway the biggest priority was assumed
to have been sorted, and then a 30 quid fee was slapped on - obviuosly justified through the names on the list - and you guys paid so it must have been valid - a few grumbles but the cash was paid because if you pay for something it must be good, when in
reality when you don't pay for something it is amazing (sad that this is the reality in the West - the more something costs the better it is).
If you look across Europe at the festivals and also to the press releases by labels more and more hype is being used to get in the door or to be the record (sorry...CD). And the hype is needed because more and more money is being invested, more is needed in return so more bullsh*t is needed to 'guarentee' a return. So why not in the UK?
But the UK has a history of putting on small parties and festivals, avoiding money and the cops, due to the CJA and lisences and the last few years there have been some brilliant
parties with the minimum of involvement from the law.
So I guess this is a call, a call to remember where the quality of parties, and of life.....it is in relations with other human beings and WHY, when we CAN choose, should we compromise this with money. The people you meet make your life special and in a small localised scene you meet more people, in a large festival you may only meet the people you camp next to, but a small festival you meet people all the day.
The reality of the UK law is that only smaller parties can be organised with any degree of certainity as to whether they will actually occur so can we, as a community, ACCEPT this and see it is a positive thing, rather than pushing....pushing the boundaries and ending up hating each other when our strength is in unity?
I am not suggesting a solution to the current situation because such is the power of money that even if a full refund was on
offer, then some sctions would be b*tching about travel costs, mobile bills, food and eveything else money was spent on, being
far more than the 30 quid ticket.
I just want to say Break the egoistic cycle...big is not the best,
SMALL IS BEAUTIFUL........
peace 
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Nik
Error Corrective
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Posted : Sep 9, 2003 16:03
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but its not as if the smaller parties dont exist anymore. if anything there have been more smaller outdoor shannanigans from upcoming crews this year than last year.......
lc are not the only outdoor psy collective in southern england - indigo children, cambridge crew, crystal fields, party possible, magikana(wales), ozma, fushion...........etc. etc. etc. have all thrown excellent parties this year.
the outdoor scene is alive and kicking!!!!!
an theres plenty of psy in london every weekend for no more than a fiver.......
there really is no need to be so sad! |
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mark
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Posted : Sep 9, 2003 19:25
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Agree, the smaller the party, the better location you can get away with. Some of the places parties have taken me too in wales are places that otherwise i would never have ventured too or known about, the days/weeks after these have been different, for me being in all that nature really positively affects my outlook on things. chilling amongst the moss by waterfalls (preferably in the sun ) Those are special times....
And yeah, i was staggered to find out how much some of my friends were spending at a recent euro-fest, in some cases it was as much each day as i spent the whole party. Albeit i had money constraints or i might have been there with them but i know that a number of them did not have as good a time due to being stressed about some interpersonal stuff..
I myself am not always one for seeing the bigger picture so well as you've described it here, your really sounding like you've been chilling in the east for coming up to a year now tigga! :hi:
All the best to you and love to the lady. |
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