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A little help with my live set (loudness)
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acidkills
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Posted : May 24, 2008 11:31
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Glitch_CapeTown
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Posted : May 24, 2008 11:42
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acidkills
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Posted : May 24, 2008 13:08
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Glitch_CapeTown
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Posted : May 24, 2008 13:45
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Glitch_CapeTown
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Posted : May 24, 2008 14:37
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Spindrift
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Posted : May 24, 2008 14:58
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I never had a soundcard where using ASIO or not affects anything other the latency and processor usage....and I really have trouble seeing how the drivers would affect sound quality (unless they are suffering from obvious glitches).
And if using ASIO increases the level it would mean that the regular driver is incapable of sending a full scale signal which seems extremely strange.
The fact that your kick is at -8 to -7.5dB really doesn't mean that much.
As I said, how loud you perceive a mix or a sound has a lot to do with the frequency content, so for example a kick with very little sub and a lot of mid seems a lot louder than than a kick with mostly sub and the same peak or RMS value.
So if the spectral balance is out or you have some sharp peaks in the bass region you would experience the symptoms you describe.
If that's not the case simply limiting should have been working to bring up the RMS.
Maybe you could grab a graph over the spectral content of the mix?
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Glitch_CapeTown
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Posted : May 24, 2008 15:47
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On 2008-05-24 14:58, Spindrift wrote:
I never had a soundcard where using ASIO or not affects anything other the latency and processor usage....and I really have trouble seeing how the drivers would affect sound quality (unless they are suffering from obvious glitches).
And if using ASIO increases the level it would mean that the regular driver is incapable of sending a full scale signal which seems extremely strange.
The fact that your kick is at -8 to -7.5dB really doesn't mean that much.
As I said, how loud you perceive a mix or a sound has a lot to do with the frequency content, so for example a kick with very little sub and a lot of mid seems a lot louder than than a kick with mostly sub and the same peak or RMS value.
So if the spectral balance is out or you have some sharp peaks in the bass region you would experience the symptoms you describe.
If that's not the case simply limiting should have been working to bring up the RMS.
Maybe you could grab a graph over the spectral content of the mix?
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yes i know this about percieved volume, and spectral content. im busy analysing my mixes with spectragraphs and such and im noticing that there is a high amount of low frequency activities.... but i think that my old driver was maybe compressing slightly, or i dont know... but it sounds louder now..
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Boobytrip
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Posted : May 26, 2008 10:53
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sorry, double post |
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Boobytrip
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Posted : May 26, 2008 11:06
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so if i have the limiter on the master buss, should i set the limiter's threshold to the same as that of the house limiter?
because then the kick starts to lose its punch 
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The output from your master bus limiter should not exceed the house limiter's threshold, because this will result in double limiting. As was already noted, a sharp low cut at 30 Hz and dropping the volume of kick and bass by a few dB are good ideas, because this way your bus limiter won't be triggered by the low freqs as much. This will prevent it from 'punching holes' in the rest of your mix. |
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Glitch_CapeTown
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Posted : May 26, 2008 12:17
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