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A honest question for those that fly to parties..

Xolvexs
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Posted : Oct 19, 2009 16:55
from what we have seen artists especially musicians are easiest to convince for the most ridiculous of our schemes...one of my best investment
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subconsciousmind
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Posted : Oct 19, 2009 17:24
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On 2009-10-19 16:30, Axis Mundi wrote:
I think what he's trying to say is that we're underestimating the planet's ability to take care of itself.

It's survived worse catastrophies than humans, it'll shake us off like a bad case of fleas when it's had enough. ( <3 George Carlin)




That's a good one. I also think it's pretty arogant to say "safe the planet" as if it needed it. It's all about saving ourselves and determining in what kind of environment we and our children want to live in.           Most of my music for you to download at:
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Xolvexs
IsraTrance Senior Member

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Posted : Oct 19, 2009 17:30
my children will never grow...there will be sufficient anti aging creams and lotions as well as stem cells and botoxs to prevent them from growing up.           When death comes to your doorstep, make sure you are alive
TranceVisuals
TranceVisuals

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Posted : Oct 19, 2009 17:53
Thumbs up for the people that care!

Off to the lions for those that don't....

And under that asinine wit Xolvexs, I wonder what self-imagining mind lurks..

Repeated heroic doses have forced me to ponder the very fact our thoughts seems to escape out of our heads and become manifest... Makes me wonder, and whether one should!
Xolvexs
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Posted : Oct 19, 2009 18:55
btw the Al Gore--the Noble Piece whining godfather of the Crym8 movement...charges $400,000 for a speaking engagement and does not travel without his Private Jet.
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Axis Mundi
Axis Mundi

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Posted : Oct 19, 2009 18:58
Dear poo calculator,

If I made bricks out of all the poo that I ever pooped out, and made a 6-ft. high wall out of the bricks, how long would I be able to make that wall?

It's questions like these that await my Book of Life whenever I die and go to heaven.
Xolvexs
IsraTrance Senior Member

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Posted : Oct 19, 2009 19:07
to make bricks out of the poo you will need to store the poo somewhere close and will need a special furnace to heat your poo. We at Asi9 have a special product just so that you can convert your poo to brick in few minutes. It also comes with a special feature which allows you to convert your poo to a soft clay like form which you can use to make Plates, Cups, Vases etc. We also have special organic dyes which we have created by extracting the colors present in various poos of the world.           When death comes to your doorstep, make sure you are alive
Basilisk
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Posted : Oct 19, 2009 23:00
Quote:

On 2009-10-19 16:30, Axis Mundi wrote:
I think what he's trying to say is that we're underestimating the planet's ability to take care of itself.

It's survived worse catastrophies than humans, it'll shake us off like a bad case of fleas when it's had enough. ( <3 George Carlin)



Call me crazy but I'd like to see the human species survive into the future. Yes, the planet will be here even if climate flips back to the "hot house" mode of previous epochs. 95% of extant life won't, however. Even if you feel no particular allegiance to your fellow human beings, at least you should consider all the organisms over which we have, though the evolutionary and cultural development of ethics and morality, assumed stewardship.

"There has been a lot more CO2 in the atmosphere before and we're here now" is not a valid argument against reducing emissions.
Axis Mundi
Axis Mundi

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Posted : Oct 20, 2009 00:00
I think it's important to be conscious of and I do practice certain things... I'm a strict non-litterer, I recycle, I abstain from owning and driving a car, eat organically and/or locally as often as possible, and numerous other things. I do these because I appreciate a clean environment and hate seeing litter and pollution in my environment. I certainly don't want a dirty world for my kids. However I am also aware of thereality that the Earth can also handle itself and certain things are beyond our control. That's certainly no excuse for many irresponsible actions. Of course we should make efforts to preserve ourselves and the environment, that should be a no-brainer... but I don't think we're stronger than the earth and life itself. I do think life and the earth will go on. Maybe not in the way we'd ideally have it, but not everything is within our control. I think we'll end up [nearly] killing our species long before we kill the whole planet, and the rest of life will adapt... I don't underestimate life's ability to do that. If life can go from a bondage of amino acids to what we have the present day, it can survive another climate change. And if there's a cataclysm headed our way, it's going to do what it's going to do regardless, and it's a moot point. That's all I'm saying.
Elad
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Posted : Oct 20, 2009 03:28
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On 2009-10-19 13:59, subconsciousmind wrote:
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On 2009-10-19 13:21, Elad wrote:
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On any given day, more than 87,000 flights are in the skies in the United States. Only 35 percent, or just over 30,000 of those flights are commercial carriers, like American, United or Southwest. On an average day, air traffic controllers handle 28,537 commercial flights (major and regional airlines), 27,178 general aviation flights (private planes), 24,548 air taxi flights (planes for hire), 5,260 military flights and 2,148 air cargo flights (Federal Express, UPS, etc.). At any given moment, roughly 5,000 planes are in the skies above the United States. In one year, controllers handle an average of 64 million takeoffs and landings.



do i feel bad for flying twice a year? no. not at all. maybe if i had private jet lol.
with that i strongly believe rules and regulations should be very strict and to be enforced hard.. factories airlines and all the major poluters , as well rainforest massive clearing is the real problem cause we had air filters (trees) and we simply cut those too..

and sure wish that flight will be cleaner with technology goes forword..


so you say the existance of a big bad justifies a small bad?

As long as there are others who do worse things than the bad things you do yourself you can do it?




its not small vs big , its drop vs the ocean.. thats the hole point.
do you stomp in the woods? does it kill ants? is that massacare?
there is some stuff that should be taken in proportion.. thats all i say.           www.sattelbattle.com
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subconsciousmind
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Posted : Oct 20, 2009 07:14
Quote:

On 2009-10-20 03:28, Elad wrote:
Quote:

On 2009-10-19 13:59, subconsciousmind wrote:
Quote:

On 2009-10-19 13:21, Elad wrote:
Quote:

On any given day, more than 87,000 flights are in the skies in the United States. Only 35 percent, or just over 30,000 of those flights are commercial carriers, like American, United or Southwest. On an average day, air traffic controllers handle 28,537 commercial flights (major and regional airlines), 27,178 general aviation flights (private planes), 24,548 air taxi flights (planes for hire), 5,260 military flights and 2,148 air cargo flights (Federal Express, UPS, etc.). At any given moment, roughly 5,000 planes are in the skies above the United States. In one year, controllers handle an average of 64 million takeoffs and landings.



do i feel bad for flying twice a year? no. not at all. maybe if i had private jet lol.
with that i strongly believe rules and regulations should be very strict and to be enforced hard.. factories airlines and all the major poluters , as well rainforest massive clearing is the real problem cause we had air filters (trees) and we simply cut those too..

and sure wish that flight will be cleaner with technology goes forword..


so you say the existance of a big bad justifies a small bad?

As long as there are others who do worse things than the bad things you do yourself you can do it?




its not small vs big , its drop vs the ocean.. thats the hole point.
do you stomp in the woods? does it kill ants? is that massacare?
there is some stuff that should be taken in proportion.. thats all i say.



I understand.
But the summ of all the stomps in the wood doesn't cause anything bad, whereas the sum of all flights does. even if its just the 30% from the private travels.

It's an old excuse to simply say that "its just a drop so why bother" the problem is that too many people think that way in too many areas. it obviously summs up in the end. and "drop vs. ocean" is not a fair comparison by no means.
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Pavel
Troll

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Posted : Oct 20, 2009 08:10
Quote:

On 2009-10-19 16:30, Axis Mundi wrote:
I think what he's trying to say is that we're underestimating the planet's ability to take care of itself.

It's survived worse catastrophies than humans, it'll shake us off like a bad case of fleas when it's had enough. ( <3 George Carlin)



George Carlin was a genius and he's bull's eye on this issue. Do your best to preserve the earth but please don't go that insane about it. You are as much part of it as the cows and the roses. It's your world to enjoy it as well and you get to live only once. Next time mother Earth would want to exterminate us it will have some great idea for us. Maybe a Canine flu or something funny like that.           Everyone in the world is doing something without me
Elad
Tsabeat/Sattel Battle

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Posted : Oct 20, 2009 08:33
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On 2009-10-20 07:14, subconsciousmind wrote:

I understand.
But the summ of all the stomps in the wood doesn't cause anything bad



you just doesnt think of the ants and other small creatures in the forest.. im not sure they so much into trance in insane loud volume?
and thousands of people stomping (and totaly ruin) their home? (not to mention trash from some people)
is there calculator for this??
2nd , i dont believe many 'charity' organizations , coruption has been discovered too many times to know the money goes 50-50 (in good case) to the cause / management pocket...
so every now and then i do what i can but i still believe this all should be in law , so every one must do it.. just like recycle.. i wont drive 20 minutes to 3 different dumpsters but i will seperate my trash if they collect it in that way.. (like in most western countries)          www.sattelbattle.com
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mk47
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Posted : Oct 20, 2009 09:27
+1 for the George Carlin thing
gutter
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Posted : Oct 20, 2009 09:52
+1000 for Xolvexs words
i think they are ecobullshitting us
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