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a good set for tau pro bassline?? fullon..
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GuhLima
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Posted : Apr 10, 2006 17:45
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how can I set a good n "agreesive" bass @ tau pro... something like delirious.. sorry but im a beginner...
i got vb-1 but I can´t set cut and decay, am I right???
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FluoSamsara (Oxygen)
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Posted : Apr 10, 2006 19:28
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undertones
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Posted : Apr 10, 2006 19:32
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Psylopath
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Posted : Apr 10, 2006 20:44
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the turning point is not only the sound of the synth.
it's very important, that you form the sound with the right effects.
fool around with distortion, compression EQs and maybe some tools like waves rbass.
then try to understand how a full on bass works.
listen to basslines you like, and analyse them.
the turning point is, that you can't get a good bass with anotherones preset, without having understood the whole bass thing.
and to understand the bass thing I would recommend a lot of practice |
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EYB
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Posted : Apr 10, 2006 20:59
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Yes, please search just half a minute in this forum and u will get that much infos about programming a bassline that u can learn some days or week or month just with the delivered infos
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e-motion
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Posted : Apr 10, 2006 22:42
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tau pro doesn't have the same timbre as a delirious bassline but you don't need that right? well the method of doing basslines is similar from synth to synth. high env amnt, low env decay, low cutoff and low res... as well as lots of accent. but as important as a good preset are good notes... you must find how to shape a full on bassline which is not hard |
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GuhLima
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Posted : Apr 10, 2006 23:48
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yep... im learning a lot with this forum....
amazing...
is there another one good like this?
thnx |
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Erez_b
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Posted : Apr 11, 2006 09:20
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Let me tell you a secret ...
The real deal is the EQ and all the other effects and vegetables
Many artists use the Tau Pro for their basslines and you wont even recognize its sound ...
You can create the Delirious basslines with almost every plug ...
Tau Pro will defently do the job. |
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Yellow Warrior
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Posted : Apr 11, 2006 11:14
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Hey GuhLima,
something i found on cosmosis's website, hopefully it will help you, Enjoy...
My view is that there are three basic patterns in Trance basslines. Everything else is the variation and slight twist that you will want to give it to make it your own....
1. The Oom-pah (spookily enough features on many "progressive" German trance records)
At it's most basic consists, it of a quarter note bass note on every offbeat of the bar. That is to say if a bar is subdivided into 8th notes, then the bass note would come on every other beat; e.g on 2, 4, 6 and 8 while the kick would sound on 1, 3, 5 and 7. Add your own variation by e.g. patching filter to velocity and tweaking velocity....varying the note length etc... moving to another note (shock, horror! at the end of a 2 or 4 bar pattern - which also applies to the following lines too...
2. The Gallop. Consists of bass notes on these 16th note subdivisions in a bar: 3+4,7+8,11+12 and 15+16 Yea-harrr!
3. The Hum-a-danga Consists of bass notes on all 16th note subdivisions in a bar except on the beat - (where the kik lands: 16th. note subdivisions of 1, 5, 9 and 13. Popular in much full on Trance and Israeli trance in particular....
These are your basic patterns. You can play then straight or bring your own compositional skill into play by mixing them all up to create an individual line, varing some notes for accents. Another idea is patch the velocity to the filter in the synth. and adjust the note velocities (by small amounts) to create some accents, It=B4s up to you. Remember; whatever sounds good, is good.
Another important tip is that you should keep your sequencer note length quantization on a 64th note resolution. Varying the note lengths by small amounts can quite drastically alter the overall effect when it comes to Trance basslines, making the difference between a nice, tight funky groove or a drunken punk rock band at their first gig.
Now, for the bass sound.
A good place to start (and end) is setting the oscillator at a single saw wave, or if using two oscillators, a square wave mixed with a saw wave one octave above, at around 70/30 ratio low/high sounds great.
Also, if using more than one oscillator, I prefer to hit the sync. button (or similar function - Phase Init. on the Access Virus) to lock them both together to stop any phase variation at note on, which will play havoc with the levels of individual notes in the bassline. Trust me, you don't want this.
Filter the result with a 24db low pass filter, (but 12db can be cool too) Top tip: keep the resonance value low for basslines. From 0 - 25% res.
Set between 5 - 30% filter envelope depth.
Filter Envelope: Fast - medium decay on the env. filter. Filter env. Sustain at zero. Amount between let's say, between 5 - 50% (Often depends on the synth...)
Amp envelope: For now keep the attack and release as fast as possible without clicks - again depends on the synth - for now, keep sustain at maximum. Adjust the release in the range 0 - 20% until it sounds nice and sits with the kik.
Set up the kik, loop the track and tweak the above parameters until you are satisfied that it all locks together nicely.
Another top tip is: Choose a kik that fits with the key, or a key that fits with the kik. It doesn't have to be the same note neccesarily, just something that sounds consonant. Then tune the kik up or down a little in the sampler until the low frequencies gel best.20
And there you have it: ten years of making trance records distilled into a few paragraphs.
Good luck and happy tweaking.
Bilbo Bagginz
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sy000321
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Posted : Apr 11, 2006 17:06
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On 2006-04-10 23:48, GuhLima wrote:
yep... im learning a lot with this forum....
amazing...
is there another one good like this?
thnx
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no man, this is the only one where the true secrets are unveiled...
but, if you're into hardcore production, some dnb foruns will leave this here in the dust.
  roll a joint or STFU :) |
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