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psysorcerer
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Posted : Nov 22, 2003 01:24
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In a scene that promotes positivity, I find it ironic that there are so many forum topics here complaining and nagging about minor details instead of looking at the bright side of things.
I guess its understandable, everyone has an opinion, and everyone seems to like to debate. What better place that on-line? There one can find the entire population of the diverse 'wired' world. It seems the perfect place to debate.
I'm just personally tired of reading forums in which people dont seem to be debating they seem to be complaining. They may be bickering bout the scene getting too 'big' or too 'commercial', or nagging nostalgically bout the 'good old days'. These people seem to be missing the point: the scene changes, just like everything else. You either accept these changes, or you dont and you say goodbye to the scene, leaving on a good note with great memories. But please dont add to the supposed problem with negativity.
Obviously, here I come in: nagging what could be nothing, complaining about complainers.
Ive never written something so ironic 
Any thoughts?
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DiMiTry
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Posted : Nov 22, 2003 02:14
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it's November... gloomy and grey, and the sun is hiding.
hence the complaining.
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Vicky
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Posted : Nov 22, 2003 10:02
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yes psysorcerer - ironic thread
these points have been discussed repeatedly
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FluoSamsara (Oxygen)
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Posted : Nov 23, 2003 15:51
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Yes psysorcerer, I totally agree there is a lot of negative stuff being said about trance lately here in the forum...
I was looking to all the topics, what came to my mind is that a newcomer to this forum would definetelly get the wrong idea of all this...
Yes, I agree that trance has changed a lot is the last couple of years, we call it evolution, it brings positive and negative stuff...
But its up to us who know what this is all about to try and do all we can to bring more positive things into it, instead of just complaining about what we see around us as negative...That only makes things worst!
You did very well in doing this post, and I definetelly think ppl should be trying to spend their time apreciating the positive things Psy Trance has brought to their lives (and by doing so making it even better), than focusing on the negative things and spreading bad vibes about it!
Keep on the good spirit!
P.L.U.R.
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Jeff
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Posted : Nov 24, 2003 17:15
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As a famous French author wrote (Paul Valery) :
"Les débats les plus violents ont toujours eu lieu entre des doctrines ou des dogmes très peu différents [...] Le degré de précision d'une dispute en accroît la violence et l'acharnement. On se bat plus furieusement pour une lointaine décimale."
"The most violent debates always happened between very similar doctrines or dogmas [...] The precision degree of a feud increases its violence and eagerness. One fights more furiously for a distant decimal."
And indeed, you'll find more furious debates between a Full-on fan and a Progressive fan than between a Trancer and a Metal head... That's a constant of human nature IMO.
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nobody_3
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Posted : Nov 24, 2003 17:19
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It would be very boring if everyone agreed with eachother. A vibrant and alive community will always have disagreements. That's what keeps it alive and on it's toes. Without disagreement and critique there would be no going forward - only stagnation!
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udit
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Posted : Nov 25, 2003 16:23
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toooooo muchhhh
I destroy this forum
i destroy this negetivity
i destroy this positivity
and i destroy myself...
then i can be...
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an opinion is like an asshole everyone has one and it stinks (even mine)
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Transcendentalist
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Posted : Sep 13, 2006 13:21
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On 2006-09-08 22:23, shankarji wrote:
Once mother Parvati asks lord Shiva to visit beautiful earth and insist him to show wonderful creation of his, shiva says what will you want to see on "Mrityulok"(Earth), there everybody is after everybody's lives, nobody is happy wid anyone there, but she kept insisting to her point after arguement he agrees and he disguise in an old man and he turns mother parvati to an old women and his nandi to a old and weak bull, and asks parvati to keep quite and see how world works in here so when they started their journey on earth and went village to village to show mother how people react over issues which they are not even concerned about...
they were travelling through one of the village when shiva asked parvati to sit on bull and just see how people react to this, few people saw them and commented look at the old man, he's almost dead and look at old wife she is not concerned about her husband. he's walking and she's sitting on bull and enjoying her ride what a crazy lady and poor old man, shiva said to her that see people are not concerned how we go and what we do but still they will speak so they went to another village and he himself sat on bull and people saw them and said that look at the old dirty man he's not concerned about the old lady and she might die on any moment... so shiva set the second example parvati agreed so to show her the next example they both continued walking with bull on their side and another village came and people saw them and said look at the dumbos they have a bull to ride & still they both are walking,
so they both sat on bull and approached another village and people shouted on them saying that the bull is almost dead and they don't care of bull.
so atlast shiva said to parvati that this is why he calls earth mriyulok coz nobody is happy wid anyone they are jealous wid everybody.
so even if how far one tries he'll have to face any of these comments in the end because people say and they can't be quite coz they have to say anything they don't see the intention or the reason they just speak... this is for no one i hope no replies but they will.. becoz this is earth and people have great minds to think...
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omniform
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Posted : Sep 18, 2006 01:23
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On 2003-11-22 01:24, psysorcerer wrote:
In a scene that promotes positivity, I find it ironic that there are so many forum topics here complaining and nagging about minor details instead of looking at the bright side of things.
I guess its understandable, everyone has an opinion, and everyone seems to like to debate. What better place that on-line? There one can find the entire population of the diverse 'wired' world. It seems the perfect place to debate.
I'm just personally tired of reading forums in which people dont seem to be debating they seem to be complaining. They may be bickering bout the scene getting too 'big' or too 'commercial', or nagging nostalgically bout the 'good old days'. These people seem to be missing the point: the scene changes, just like everything else. You either accept these changes, or you dont and you say goodbye to the scene, leaving on a good note with great memories. But please dont add to the supposed problem with negativity.
Obviously, here I come in: nagging what could be nothing, complaining about complainers.
Ive never written something so ironic
Any thoughts?
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People that are into psytrance feel very strongly about the entire genre, as they should in some ways. Like all music, people relate themselves emotionally to it, and like all art, psytrance is going to touch people on a level above anthing we know of.
Music reflects who you are as a person, so when something comes along that you don't agree with, in some ways, you take another persons opinion very personally.
People always have and always will get defensive about their music.
Intresting topic. Thanks.
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Magox
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Posted : Sep 18, 2006 03:00
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I agree.........too much negativity.........
its not too late......
do something!!!
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Psycosmo
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Posted : Sep 18, 2006 12:25
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On 2003-11-24 17:15, Jeff wrote:
As a famous French author wrote (Paul Valery) :
"Les débats les plus violents ont toujours eu lieu entre des doctrines ou des dogmes très peu différents [...] Le degré de précision d'une dispute en accroît la violence et l'acharnement. On se bat plus furieusement pour une lointaine décimale."
"The most violent debates always happened between very similar doctrines or dogmas [...] The precision degree of a feud increases its violence and eagerness. One fights more furiously for a distant decimal."
And indeed, you'll find more furious debates between a Full-on fan and a Progressive fan than between a Trancer and a Metal head... That's a constant of human nature IMO.
J.
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So very true.
My suggestion is the creation of a rants forum. Negativity is a part of life, so the solution is to create a place for people to go and say all their negative unproductive crap. Arguments that will never go anywhere, like "fullon vs dark vs progressive" "x sucks" etc should go there.
The other forums should be limited to constructive discussion. If you disagree with someone, then explain why and back up your statements with specific examples. Try to suggest a better idea and say why it is better. Basically, before you post, ask yourself "Is this a constructive post? Does it add anything positive to the discussion?"
If not, then put a sock in it and go think of something constructive.
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Dogon
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Posted : Sep 18, 2006 12:41
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Instead of complaining post constructive ideas to turn the negative into positive.......
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Outolintu
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Posted : Sep 18, 2006 20:50
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On 2003-11-22 01:24, psysorcerer wrote:
Obviously, here I come in: nagging what could be nothing, complaining about complainers.
Ive never written something so ironic
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i was very much looking forward on
telling you this but then you went on and realized it yourself and spoiled all the fun. damn you!
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