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A fairly nice Solution for cheap Room Treatment....

Zlope


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Posted : Jul 6, 2011 11:42:09
hey there,

as many of us out there dont have the money for expensive and professional room treatment, i´d like to share an idea of how we could improve our room at pretty much no costs. so this is getting kind of a clandestine technic for the poor artist ^^

ok, here we go. everything needed should be quite easy available if you got a music store nearby, a decent LINEAR PHASE EQ plugin, a DAW or sine generator of your choice, a (free) realtime FFT Analyzer, Audio Interface with good mic preamps(can be borrowed too) and some chilled beer for sure....

put the beer into the fridge and look for the shortest way to your local music supply dealer. ask them to borrow a measuring microphone like this:

http://www.thomann.de/gb/earthworks_audio_m30.htm

just get a nice one dont forget about cables, stand etc. if you dont own some.

take your smile home and build up everything. get a beer and take a little break. i know this was exhausting ^^

now we ensure everything is plugged, check for sound and put our mic stand at our listening position. the height of the mic should be equal to the height of your ears.

what we gonna do now is taking measurements with our mic at our listening position. we got everything connected to our laptop/pc whatever with our DAW/sine generator and the FFT analyzer open.
the analyzer is going to show is the input of the mic, the opened EQ is going to show us the output of the DAW/Generator (just for the beginning, trust me, coming back to that point later ).

a sine sweep from at least 20hz-20khz is generated and played back.

no when we look at the EQ on our master output in our DAW/Generator, we see the linear signal going to our speakers. now if we check the analyzer, we´re going to see what we hear at our listening position, the output of the monitor including all reflections of our room.

i wanted you to go that way for the ones not that long familiar with music production and the technics behind, to give you a slightly better understanding of whats happening. also its a good way cause it combines the visual thing with your hearing. you see what you hear.....

now to improve this, we have to route the mic input back to our DAW, apply that EQ of our choice again, mute the track the mic input goes to, only leaving the sine sweep in the output of the DAW.
if you´ve done everything right and finally got my horrible english. you should be left with an EQ showing the mic input and the linear sine sweep output.

now just set up the EQ of the mic input equal to the one of the (linear) output and save the preset.

apply that preset at first on the master channel when starting a new project. dont forget to switch off for bouncing and benefit.

i hope i got no mistakes in here. anyways, should be easy to understand if you just try.

for sure the more measurements you take, the more accurate your results will be. most FFT Analyzers are able to capture and save more than one measurement in realtime.

now, this was the way for beginners. for sure one can skip the step with the EQ showing the linear output if ones familiar with these thingys.....

the beer was intended for the time of each measurement

have fun and feel free to correct me here if im wrong sorry if something similiar already exists. the search engine has not been that help ^^

cheers
Monib

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Posted : Jul 8, 2011 21:13
Good idea, I'll have to give it a go, until I can get some treatment done. Wondering if the monitors EQ in the rear help with this as well...
Zlope


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Posted : Jul 9, 2011 11:06
if you know where the disturbing frequencies occur, they might be a help. these few knobs are usually not made to do surgical work anyways. and depending on your room it might get something like that ^^

just try and feel free to share the result. it will always improve the sound of your room, even if theres already acoustic treatment in there

thanks for giving it a thought!
Soundmagus
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Posted : Jul 9, 2011 11:18
I am about to release a course (freebie) that shows you how to sort out your room relatively cheaply by building your own traps, using acoustic measurement tools etc.

Keep an eye out for it, should be next week

Mark           Check out my site for Video tutorials and other tips & Tricks

http://www.music-production-videos.com
Nomad Moon
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Posted : Jul 9, 2011 11:35
Quote:

On 2011-07-09 11:18, Soundmagus wrote:
I am about to release a course (freebie) that shows you how to sort out your room relatively cheaply by building your own traps, using acoustic measurement tools etc.

Keep an eye out for it, should be next week

Mark




I'm looking forward to that, currently i'm making music on a laptop and headphones in the house i share with my girlfriend,we have a room that will be the office so i'm very keen on CHEAP! solutions lol

by the way love the view u have on your studio
Zlope


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Posted : Jul 10, 2011 09:42
this has nothing to do with the topic except some nag that one should click your site. at the end i found nothing free so far on your site so its a completely useless post. everything you offer there is available for FREE if ones able to use google. besides, the rest of the videos seem to cost a bunch more than the solution above. building traps is all about money if you want to do that right, i was talking about 0€, except the beer. maybe topic should be changed to "...treatment for free" instead.

anyways, have fun with it.... im glad if i lead you to a good idea and you soon come by with a good video for free about it. more glad if its even the first you offer free.....
Monib

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Posted : Jul 14, 2011 04:41
Quote:

On 2011-07-09 11:35, Nomad Moon wrote:
Quote:

On 2011-07-09 11:18, Soundmagus wrote:
I am about to release a course (freebie) that shows you how to sort out your room relatively cheaply by building your own traps, using acoustic measurement tools etc.

Keep an eye out for it, should be next week

Mark




I'm looking forward to that, currently i'm making music on a laptop and headphones in the house i share with my girlfriend,we have a room that will be the office so i'm very keen on CHEAP! solutions lol

by the way love the view u have on your studio



Looking forward to it as well!
Upavas
Upavas

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Posted : Jul 14, 2011 06:38
Interesting idea !           Upavas - Here And Now (Sangoma Rec.) new EP out Oct.29th, get it here:
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elastic_plastic
Re-Boot

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Posted : Jul 14, 2011 10:05
i have a friend who has stuffed Egg Trays and uses them instead of the bass traps and he says it works wonders!

one of the cheapest solutions!
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