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A change in approach of releasing music.
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Braindrop
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Posted : Aug 7, 2008 13:59:20
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Hi.
Day by day we see an increase in people saying that there is mediocre music being released today. I do tend to agree in bits although there is a lot of good music as well, and its just that one has to search a bit more.
Now is it because there tends to be lack variety in the music being released, that are forcing people to buy less and download more?
Or is it because 9-10 tracks are pushed in a compilation of the same style out of which a couple tend to be nice ?
Let me just give you an example by showing couple of earlier Ketuh releases which are some of my all tme favorites :
1. Suspended reality
http://www.saikosounds.com/english/display_release.asp?id=3834
2. The numinous
http://www.saikosounds.com/english/display_release.asp?id=4989
and basically almost all Ketuh releases and even earlier Deja Vu releases.
I'm sure a lot of you would treasure Suspended reality. Do u see the variety ?? Which made the releases more enjoyable thus completing the spectrum and plethora of sounds psytrance offers.
Now here's my question with regards to raising the bar for quality releases and keeping the sales number intact.
1. Would you prefer compilations offering varied and quality music, or just following one sub-style (night/twilight/morning etc) ?
2. Would you prefer less but very good tracks in a compilation as opposed to the standard 9 or 10..lets say 7 or 8.. and the compilation being sold at a lesser price? Thus satisfying the customer more with quality and the budget.
I'd like to know your views on this. This could probably help in improving the current situation a little better.
Boom!
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Basilisk
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Posted : Aug 7, 2008 15:55
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Consider the audience. There are a lot of psytrance fans out there but I think the people that do most of the buying are DJs. And what do DJs generally want? Unmixed compilations packed with tracks they can use in their sets. As a result, many psytrance compilations feature 8 to 10 tracks in the same style and BPM range. Such releases are the raw materials of set building--what I call "DJ fodder." Although they can be listened to like any other CD, if often feels as if such a use is only secondary.
Of course there are also releases out there designed purely for home listening... but given the marginal economics of the psytrance industry, those releases are few and far between.
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Pythagoraz
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Posted : Aug 7, 2008 16:40
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1. Either of the two examples is fine. -if the music is any good of course.
2. If there for some reason is a problem with the idea of releasing 9-10 track compilations with quality tracks in them, I would definately prefer fewer tracks on the Compilations.
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exotic
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Posted : Aug 7, 2008 19:01
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I'd be definitely buying more music if there was variety being offered. If it takes 7/8 tracks per complation to make it cost effective , i dont see a problem.
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Braindrop
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Posted : Aug 9, 2008 22:05
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Hmm... any more inputs ?
Cmmon guys and girls... i knw u got loads 
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Ascension
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Posted : Aug 14, 2008 16:48
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I like the idea of less tracks, but higher quality. I usually only find about 1-2 tracks per album/va that I can play at a party which makes me want to download it rather than buy- not that I always do this, but I usually only spend money on cds that are worth it. I like the idea of multi sub-genre cds, but that's only because I play all styles of psytrance. Others that only play 1 style probably wouldn't like this as much so I'd say just stick to 1 style. It's hard to determine what's good, but it's easier to determine what's bad imo so when releasing a cd it's up to the compiler's judgement.
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Xolvexs
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Posted : Aug 14, 2008 22:33
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good trance is good trance...realeased or unreleased...just play it
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Braindrop
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Posted : Aug 14, 2008 23:46
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@ doughcherry... if u have any fruitful thoughts... please provide them. I did not open this thread to increase your post count.
Peace
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Xolvexs
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Posted : Aug 14, 2008 23:47
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dude i am a full member to become a senior i need more topics not replies..read the rules
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Xolvexs
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Posted : Aug 15, 2008 00:00
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by the way i want to privatize the site and kick the freebies out...i have big big network..contribute or die
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Kane
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Posted : Aug 15, 2008 16:56
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I think it's alright the way it is. You buy the stuff that's worth supporting, and that's all there is to it.
What I would like to see is labels letting artists sell their individual tracks on stuff like Snocap (on Myspace), letting them keep a percentage of the profit. If there's something out there like Snocap where you can buy the wave file or an mp3 (If there is, please let me know), then that will appeal to both DJs and listeners. That way if you don't really like most of the tracks in a va, the truly talented artists and their labels can still profit from it.
At the moment, it's just a decision that the labels make about how much they want to control the quality of the music they're releasing. Ultimae, for example, is great at this. They have a specific sound and feel as a label, and also within the compilations and albums that they release...strictly high quality tunes put together very well.
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Braindrop
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Posted : Aug 16, 2008 22:25
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On 2008-08-15 16:56, Kane wrote:
I think it's alright the way it is. You buy the stuff that's worth supporting, and that's all there is to it.
What I would like to see is labels letting artists sell their individual tracks on stuff like Snocap (on Myspace), letting them keep a percentage of the profit. If there's something out there like Snocap where you can buy the wave file or an mp3 (If there is, please let me know), then that will appeal to both DJs and listeners. That way if you don't really like most of the tracks in a va, the truly talented artists and their labels can still profit from it.
At the moment, it's just a decision that the labels make about how much they want to control the quality of the music they're releasing. Ultimae, for example, is great at this. They have a specific sound and feel as a label, and also within the compilations and albums that they release...strictly high quality tunes put together very well.
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This is something tht has been initiated courtesy of Talamasca... check www.trancepool.net... similar concept wherein the artist can use the Trancepool player on their myspace page and the other person can download tracks via them .....
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Psynaesthesian
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Posted : Aug 20, 2008 10:13
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quality over quantity any given day!!!
i do think however that the audience in general today have adopted a more cost effective method of (pay and) download by choice, with varying tastes and so many variations in styles of music. Tools are readily available to compile and burn to ones own taste and requirement. It's easier and cheaper.
Don't care much for the free-B d/lers so to them their own.
I personally pick up mostly any CDs i see at stores when i travel, based on recommendations and 2-3 min previews wherever possible. And of late it's impossible to find any new / good psytrance albums where i am.
I see the CD music medium slowly but surely fading away in time!
Online is probably the way to go!
Unlike pop etc., I don't know of any single general psy/goatrance chart system (or maybe i just don't care) - so compilation success cannot really be projected here.
Good Luck!!
B'om!
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Braindrop
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Posted : Aug 22, 2008 18:19
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On 2008-08-14 16:48, Ascension wrote:
I like the idea of less tracks, but higher quality. I usually only find about 1-2 tracks per album/va that I can play at a party which makes me want to download it rather than buy- not that I always do this, but I usually only spend money on cds that are worth it. I like the idea of multi sub-genre cds, but that's only because I play all styles of psytrance. Others that only play 1 style probably wouldn't like this as much so I'd say just stick to 1 style.
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I forgot to point out this....
I agree from your p.o.v. As per ur suggestion to stick to one style of music.. Well.. thts exactly the point of the topic, wherein i mean to say that diversity is the key.
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ocelot
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Posted : Sep 1, 2008 18:03
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individual tracks released digitally
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