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jizy
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Posted : Jan 28, 2009 19:28:17
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alright lads, when using a reference track, what is your main goal? because surly your a tying to achieve the same level of loudness to a track that has been mastered?
or im i wrong?
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Kane
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Posted : Jan 28, 2009 20:07
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I've never used a reference track, and I can't see many people doing so for professional mastering. If you need a guideline for loudness, just check the RMS level. Every mix has its own needs..
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onionbrain
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Posted : Jan 29, 2009 02:21
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i use other tracks as reference for the mixing, not the mastering..
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jizy
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Posted : Jan 29, 2009 04:51
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what u mean you use other tracks you have made? or just "other tracks b4 mastering" dunno what u mean mate.
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gutter
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Posted : Jan 29, 2009 09:53
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what u mean you use other tracks you have made? or just "other tracks b4 mastering" dunno what u mean mate.
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means that you take a track from an artist that you love his mixing aspect and check how this mix sounds in your room with your monitors in order to have a reference point on how to mix your track .
Means you put a commercial track (f.e a Rinkadink track), and listen to how the low frequencies sound, how the bass and kick is mixed, how the leads are mixed and their loudness, the percussion etc and the hole image of the track.
Then you dont copy them, just create & mix your elements according to what your reference track is mixed 
I believe that this is of the most crucial parts of unlocking what your ears listen in -non super acoustic treated environment- your room (mine too) and how your monitors translate the mixes.
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UllR
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Posted : Jan 29, 2009 09:58
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Use 'em while you mix, not master. Mostly used when you are testing your speakers and room configs (especially when mixing in different studios), so that you know what your equip is doing to your sound. They can be any track, yours or someone else', as long as they sound "Great!" & have the sound you want to achieve. |
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jizy
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Posted : Jan 29, 2009 19:33
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ok,genral clarification that wuz all,i thought we where tryin to match the apparent loudness of a track to our own. im aware of the mixing side, just the loudness i wus curouse about.......
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~d2~
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Posted : Feb 1, 2009 08:52
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On 2009-01-29 19:33, jizy wrote:
ok,genral clarification that wuz all,i thought we where tryin to match the apparent loudness of a track to our own. im aware of the mixing side, just the loudness i wus curouse about.......
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Do you think this is important? |
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jizy
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Posted : Feb 1, 2009 14:18
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yes, why the fuck would ask me that stupid fucking question, iz this is importaint? do u have anything decent to say? No?
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~d2~
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Posted : Feb 1, 2009 14:58
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On 2009-02-01 14:18, jizy wrote:
yes, why the fuck would ask me that stupid fucking question, iz this is importaint? do u have anything decent to say? No?
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Calm down...there is logic to my question.
The reality is that a mastered track in no good for you as a reference during a mix.
If you answered my question or at least though about it then you might have worked it out yourself.
If you really want to use a reference calibrate your monitoring system. That will do much more for your mixing and levels than trying to match "x" track. |
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jizy
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Posted : Feb 1, 2009 17:47
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callobrate my monitors? sorry for the harsh reply i have man flue
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~d2~
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Posted : Feb 1, 2009 18:01
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On 2009-02-01 17:47, jizy wrote:
callobrate my monitors? sorry for the harsh reply i have man flue
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Yes calibrate your monitors Will help you understand the true relationship with loudness, dynamics and compression. will act as an anchor point for you to return to during mixing and mastering. And can also be set to a level which works with the ears at their most linear.
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jizy
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Posted : Feb 1, 2009 19:36
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yeh i do.
u talking about the fader or the volume control at the back of the monitors right? what about if your monitors are passive? mine are active, and the faders are set to +4 db they come straight of of the audio interface
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~d2~
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Posted : Feb 1, 2009 19:53
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Well Cinemas all sound very similar. This is because they have a set of standards and the sound systems in them are calibrated. The mix engineers use a set level to mix to.
You can do this when mixing music and mastering.
You will need a sound pressure level meter, they are quite cheap. You send a pink noise tone through your system and adjust the monitor control level until you reach a set spl. You then can mark this on your monitor level knob and refer back to it when ever you need to.
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~d2~
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Posted : Feb 1, 2009 20:02
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