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A 440 or 432

Yidam
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Posted : Jul 10, 2013 14:45
Didn't mean to post that as a reply Nectarios, was just for fun.

But if you'd like to read about some producers doing this, here's a good one...

http://www.subaqueousmusic.com/production-articles/music-theory/173-tuning-to-432

or easier thing to do is just pitch the mixdown from 440 to 432 using Soundforge or Audacity.
Nectarios
Martian Arts

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Posted : Jul 10, 2013 15:16
Hmm...going to great lengths trying to achieve a nice sound only to pitch shift the whole mix later on, seems like an oxymoron to me.

Although I don't know how good the pitch shift is on Soundforge or Audacity these days as I don't have either.

Will see if I can give it a try with my own track using Logic's Time/Pitch Machine to see if I like it better at 432.           
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Yidam
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Posted : Jul 10, 2013 15:34
Or you could just play your tracks on a CDJ and pitch it down -1.818%
Nectarios
Martian Arts

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Posted : Jul 10, 2013 15:40
Don't have a CDJ with that resolution around...But thanks for the tip!           
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Jul 10, 2013 15:41
Quote:

On 2013-07-10 15:34, Yidam wrote:
Or you could just play your tracks on a CDJ and pitch it down -1.818%



So you get a full DJ set together of tracks all written in 432Hz tuning. Brilliant! The most spiritual set ever. But they're all at different tempos! Oh no! Gotta pitch them down and up to get them to beatmatch. Which means that none of them are in 432Hz tuning any more. Oh noes!           Mastering - http://mastering.OOOD.net :: www.is.gd/mastering
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Nectarios
Martian Arts

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Posted : Jul 10, 2013 15:52
Quote:

On 2013-07-10 15:41, Colin OOOD wrote:
Quote:

On 2013-07-10 15:34, Yidam wrote:
Or you could just play your tracks on a CDJ and pitch it down -1.818%



So you get a full DJ set together of tracks all written in 432Hz tuning. Brilliant! The most spiritual set ever. But they're all at different tempos! Oh no! Gotta pitch them down and up to get them to beatmatch. Which means that none of them are in 432Hz tuning any more. Oh noes!



I took it that Yidam was meaning that I could play my own track pitched down and compare it to the un-pitched version.           
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Yidam
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Posted : Jul 10, 2013 16:01
@Colin Might work if you're playing dubstep, like 10,000,000,000 tracks for that genre written in 140

Anyway not in this to talk about relevance of the tuning, just how to get it done. Never really found the need to use specific frequencies except when generating Tanpura drones for Indian classical recordings.
daark
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Posted : Jul 10, 2013 16:34
sometimes i get so messed up with my synth i don't know what pitch it is so i just use my ears and don't care what note i am or tune or whatever.

The picture is much bigger than 8hz. Of course its just nonsense. Like Ipot.
Don't get yourself confused with numbers. It is only a small part of the picture.

By the way i clocked my processor to 432hz now getting stuck on my PC gets me enlightened and cures cancers           http://soundcloud.com/magimix-1/chilling-forest-whispers
Wierd shit happens :)
Colin OOOD
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Posted : Jul 10, 2013 16:58
Quote:

On 2013-07-10 15:52, Nectarios wrote:
Quote:

On 2013-07-10 15:41, Colin OOOD wrote:
Quote:

On 2013-07-10 15:34, Yidam wrote:
Or you could just play your tracks on a CDJ and pitch it down -1.818%



So you get a full DJ set together of tracks all written in 432Hz tuning. Brilliant! The most spiritual set ever. But they're all at different tempos! Oh no! Gotta pitch them down and up to get them to beatmatch. Which means that none of them are in 432Hz tuning any more. Oh noes!



I took it that Yidam was meaning that I could play my own track pitched down and compare it to the un-pitched version.



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willsanquil
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Posted : Jul 10, 2013 20:14
What I find more interesting is the whole equal temperament vs just intonation....







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Djones
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Posted : Jul 10, 2013 22:44
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On 2013-07-10 20:14, willsanquil wrote:
What I find more interesting is the whole equal temperament vs just intonation....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhZpvGSPx6w

I MEAN THE SHAPES DONT LIE RIGHT?!



Too complicated for me, but it looks interesting
ansolas
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Posted : Jul 11, 2013 00:39
and to further, there is also a relation between tempo (bpm) and root note (bps ==Hz)           http://facebook.com/ansolas
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faxinadu
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Posted : Jul 11, 2013 02:10
http://www.southparkstudios.com/full-episodes/s03e17-world-wide-recorder-concert           
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A.Rosengren
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Posted : Jul 11, 2013 02:34
Let it be, let it be.
frisbeehead
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Posted : Jul 11, 2013 05:03
Quote:

On 2013-07-10 13:04, Yidam wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbV5qf594X8&list=PLXkaM5YMqjpFXFBdWjHo8I06Kph7KGiIC

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TD00dapGRcs



you had me at "let it be" XD

but to be honest I liked the first let it be much more. maybe there's something to it... does it work like this in psychedelic I wonder before clicking on wavelab on the dock, while putting his star trek (lying here) sunglasses
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