9/11 Facts ... you decide what the truth really is
TAS
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Posted : Feb 12, 2008 02:45
And please don't come with sites like this: http://www.debunking911.com/thermite.htm that say "couldn't it be possible that it was done afterwards" and shit like that... it has much proof that the pictures saying the opposite.
And if aluminium and plaster is mixed and gets that reaction you see in one of the videos there you have to mix it to an fine powder or something like that. I worked in the construction business for 7 years. Hehe... ffs... one point with plaster is for making the building more fireproof. And you use Aluminium rales to screw up the plaster on walls etc... Is that a good idea if those two reacts like on that video?? ...don't think so...
...and another thing that idiots never mention (on both sides).... and that is something called "Rebar" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rebar
On every single floor you have a "net" with these rebars wich holds ALOT of pressure from the concrete etc. When "experts" talk about the buiding they mention the inner and outher columns as the only things that holds the concrete floor up... wich is just plain BS...
I have watched plenty of so called "debunking" documentaries and shit like that... and sure.. some of them points out good issues and takes "away" some ideas ppl had but still I think there's plenty to explain about it...
Steel has an expansion coefficient nearly equal to that of modern concrete. If this weren't so, it would be useless for reinforcing concrete.[1] Although rebar has ridges that bind it mechanically to the concrete with friction, it can still be pulled out of the concrete under high stresses, an occurrence that often precedes a larger-scale collapse of the structure. To prevent such a failure, rebar is either deeply embedded into adjacent structural members, or bent and hooked at the ends to lock it around the concrete and other rebar. This first approach increases the friction locking the bar into place while the second makes use of the high compressive strength of concrete.
this is pretty insightful, and its no "conspiracy-stuff".
it's not any less grim though.
cheers people!
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Posted : Feb 15, 2008 14:49
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Posted : Mar 17, 2008 16:21
Ive read most of this thread... hmmm... not seen the documentries... and I find this conspiracy very very hard to beilive... although I truly beilive there is something more than what meets the eye, I dont think this couldve been an act completely controlled by the US government.
To begin with the main question I would pose is - There are over a billion people in this world who are against the americans because of their misuse of their Nº 1 super power designation given by this planet. Do you really think they would let the goverment and top leaders getaway with something so horrible as to killing their own people for the sake of money? second question would be that to execute something so big is impossible to begin with ... even if we beilive it was done... it required more than 100-200 people to plan this perfectly... and if a couple of hundred people were involved in a Top Secret Mission it is impossible by human nature for each of that person to be utterly silent about the truth and not even a single leak of information has come out for people to work with...
Another thing you should know is these military companies that you are talking bout that make huge profits from these conspiracies are also lead by humans of our level of compassion, morals and values. They are not sitting in these arms and ammunition industry with horns on their head and a unsaid desire to wage a war against humans... They dont care to make these profits... War or no War... Research, work and Profits continue no matter what.
And if you think profit from arms and ammunition was the ONLY motive for this to happen, why would they even need something to attack them? Take the example of Iraq... they wanted to use their weapons so they shut their eyes, spun the globe and whereever their finger stopped, blamed that country for WMD... and blew it up... they really dont need an attack on themselves.
another point I read a lot on this thread is people talking bout technology and information that the US army has. People really think that the american army has so much technology that if i dreamt of bombing america, they would catch it on their radar. This is absurd... americans are way ahead in technology true... but they still dont have enough to be able to avoid disasters against them, they can still be fooled and they can be brought down to their knees.
I feel the americans were waiting for an attack by the Arabs, but I dont think they expected something this big. All the americans were thinking of is retaliation with full force and expected the entire world to be on their side after they´d see what the terrorists would do... unfortunately the americans got too greedy and exploited this problem for a very selfish act...
And lastly... anyone watched the movie the hamburg cell??? Everything that you have talked bout here... is completely contradicting that movie, because in that movie they whole conspiracy was created in germany without the direct help of al queda (indirectly the money mite be coming in through a connected person ) and this was an independent Islamic extremist group that planned to attack, and when al queda took responsibility it was blown outta proportion.
Also... what about the one person that was caught in flight school on suspicion, and this year was given the death sentence?
Where do all these questions stand boys?
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TAS
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Posted : Apr 2, 2008 03:22
Nope... It wasn't done by the US only if you watch some documentaries that have been done on this matter...
You don't have anything more then you personal opinions here... and they are worth nothing in this case. What you think the government can do or not is irrelevant if you don't have any proof.
What did Hitler do in 1933? Burnt down his own "Reichstag building" and then blamed it on the commies. What happened in Pearl Harbor 1941? The US let Japan bomb them so they had the chance to test out their nuclear bomb... the list goes on...
I suggest you watch "Terrorstorm" wich shows plenty of evidence of "government sponsored terrorism" during the last 100's year or so...
hmm... profits from Arms & Ammo? The biggest issue was that Afghanistan had stopped producing opium poppy's.
..and when they were done there... they moved to their next target wich was the oil and to set up an base in the middle east for the coming war against Iran...
The "War on terror" & the "War on drugs" is pure bullshit imho....
Listen to this former CIA guy talking about how things works and you'll hopefully open your eyes a little more
