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Eth-Lad
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Posted : Nov 29, 2006 06:19
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i also wrote a post about forged-video footage.. but i was clever enough to hit [Alt] when i wanted to type "[Space]s".
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extazya
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Larry A. Silverstein gained from this suicide attack .. and from his demolition crew who plant 2 days back the bombs .. no plane can crash a building...especily not 200 high building..
i sent Larry A. Silverstein a greetingz letter 
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Aida Noridania
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hedre on a channel from the netherlands they made a documentary...
they have been able to topple a lot of the loose change cospiracies except a few
an explosive expert really examined every collapse anf he said the towers did't collapse right
till he saw building 7 collapse then he immediately said "controlled demolition"... funny was he didn't knew it was building 7 (here in europe we barely saw building 7's collapse
ii know when i saw it the first time i was like wtf??? but the second time i found it strange... the strangest thing was that for me the whole thing went down.... you see the tower "snap" and then desintegrate... i found that bizarre... i thought the top to snap off and fall over as the hole gives the piece that would fall enough "room" to do that
well the huge inferno in Madrid a year or two later depicts what i though would be logic: there the building also suffered severe damage and collapsed partially... yet it was only at the top... the 27 lower storeys were still standing a part of that building too
nevertheless they have in that documentary also found proof that some people knew about this and acted byu placing put options on boing and companies involved, also have they found proofs of important money transfers from out of the towers on the day the strikes were done (convar a data recovery company could recover some data from hard drives they found in the rubble...
these theories they saw confirmed...
only little detail was: this was not a conspracy document, their goal was to just debunk the conspiracy theories... they found out that some parts of the puzzle were proven to be true and they got it confirmed from the instances...
so they came to the conclusion that perhaps some of the theories are overthrown the major theory, that the governement and some insiders in the stockmarket knew about this got confirmed...
or like they said it: for the first time we have been unable to debunk the conspiracy nuts which show that maybe their theories are overthrown, some parts are well founded and are sincere questions
especially hufshmidt who says why he thinks it is a missile: the trail of white smoke and.... actually i never watched it till i saw the movie and then had that little bell saying " hey i worked at the airport saw hundreds of planes take off but indeed never saw a white trail of smoke.... could he be right?
there are other details entangled in it too but they found out that the official story is as badly founded as the conspiracy theories....
here is that documentary it's in Dutch but ithas English subtitles... and no this is not a conspiracy theory this is state television!
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-129851858930592160&q=9%2F11+zembla
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EarWorm
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Posted : May 11, 2007 02:38
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9/11 was an inside job, period. This little trick has been played on the human collective mind for ages and it worked like a charm. Problem-Reaction-Solution. They(illuminati) convertley create a problem ie. 9/11, 7/7 london bombings. You then wait for the reaction from the people "This can't go on, something must be done! What are they going to do about it?". Then those who convertley create the problems offer their solutions to the problems they have created. You see? You have to understand that we are dealing with ruthless, sadistic mass murderers that will do what ever it takes in order to advance their adgenda. America is long gone folks, and now they are going after the whole world. But you have to understand that the USA is just a vehicle to advance this global agenda, that's why they don't give a shit about the american people and never did. "Over 3000 lives have been taken away on 9/11...The governemnt whouldn't do that!" pfffttt...you must be joking! Think again! Who benefited from these attacks? The religious fanatic muslims? Or the corporate facists of the illuminati agenda? Look for yourself what happened after 9/11...More and more basic freedoms have been taken away: the patriot act, surveillance of american citiczens everywhere, phone wire tapping by the governement...and now the National Identity Cards are being pushed, and the next step is the Microchiped Population. Far Fetched you say? Think again! All this stuff are public and are being fed to us by the redicilous mass media(which they control btw) as a good thing. But...it doesn't matter because we are multidimentional infinity, we are everything that exists. They are tiny insignificant weaklings that do not have the power to create anything...so they use us to be their slaves. We are coming to an age of universal consciousness drift, where nothing will be the same anymore. That's why everything is changing, all the lies are coming to the light, all the corruption is being exposed. Hard and challenging times are ahead of us, no doubt about it, so be kind to yourself. As we are all in this as one. We are freedom fighters from the source of Infinite Love, who believe in everything PURE, everything BEAUTIFUL, and everything that's RIGHT against those who always try to shut us up and tell us to keep following the white line. But no more...because the Revolution of universal consciousness has arrived...BIG TIME. You can feel it's around the corner, you can smell it everywhre you go. I know you're saying "no mate, I don't see anything"...but it's there, look closer, tune in to it and it will take you to the source of who you really are...INFNITE LOVE
Infniteley Yours,
Me, You, Infinite onsciousness 
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Heathen
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Posted : May 11, 2007 23:21
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I have yet to hear any good reasons why WTC 7 fell. It was NOT truck by any aircraft, the fires were VERY minimal...yet it collapsed in the same manner as WTC 1 and 2.
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jabba
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Posted : May 12, 2007 12:52
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Well i was thinking again and i think that
A. WTC prior to the attack was heavily guarded since work happens there all the time so none can just go there and fix bombs on each floor .
B. airline fuel was not the only inflammable in the building , i mean come on there got to be gas connections .
C. the intesity of fire can go very loud since air supply at such a height is good and once anything at the upper stories catch fire it can go real intense and can , yes it can melt steel .
D. the lower levels also have their own fuel so it gets help from upper level where fire is intense and can make the steel susceptible to collapse , if not melt completely but bendable .
E. The impact if you have watched the documentry was on one coloumn which extends to the roots of the building which may have cracked the base floors .
So the building i think collapsed because of the impact and no other thing BUT i still stand on my lil theory that the BUsh'n'co. mustve known the plot but did not move and calculated the misery and encashed on it you can see the post attack anti terror(iraq/afghanistan) programs followed by the B'Co. .................. why ? coz the race to own the future oil reserves which can only happen if U.S. armies stays onto the middle eastern land could only be extended if the general public of EARTH inc. did not oppose and this was a valid reason and the day this becomes invalid B'co. will again turn a blind eye to some other dreadful event ...............
just my expressions to it
peace
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Bob Lob Law
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Posted : May 12, 2007 19:43
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Smoke indicates the presence of heat and fire. Just because you dont see orange flames doesn't mean it isn't hot.
PS Your little twak emoticon is not appreciated. Perhaps you would like to come to up New York and try doing that?
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BABA.... if the smoke was so "hot" how come u can see people standing in windows where u can see smoke coming out?
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Bob Lob Law
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Posted : May 12, 2007 20:15
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Smoke indicates the presence of heat and fire. Just because you dont see orange flames doesn't mean it isn't hot.
PS Your little twak emoticon is not appreciated. Perhaps you would like to come to up New York and try doing that?
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BABA.... if the fire was so "hot" how come we can see people standing in windows where u can see smoke and fire coming out?
It is my FIRM BELIEF that it is a mistake to hold FIRM BELIEFS.
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Bob Lob Law
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Posted : May 13, 2007 01:17
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i have just finished watching that dutch television documentary,and i must say they have failed in investigating the 9/11 case to its fullest.
for example there was nothing mentioned about the explosions that were felt and heared by many witnesses in the lobby of both towers 1 and 2 moments befor the plains hit the buildings.many scollars and scientist say that the impact of the plain could have never been so dissastrous to the lobby,to such an extent that the huge 10X10ft marble pannels were blown of the walls,and the giant glass windows were blown out,fire fighters witnessing and i quote from the interview with one of them "i wasnt expecting to see the damage that i saw in the lobby,and the people,the bodies,the burnt people,the injured people,i really wasnt prepared for that." not mentioning the large number of witnesses saying they heared many different explosions on different floors in both towers(witnesses including fire fighters{listen to the tapes that were not released for some time of how fire fighters report on secondary explosions and on how the fires were not so masive as they were talking about how they could put the fires out with 2 lines of pipes})?this issue was also untouched by the investigators of the dutch television documentary.
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even if all the evidence and testimonies of explosions in the buildings arent enough to make you think twice about the credability of the official story then plz explain to me how did the concrete and materials of the twin towers were crystalised and blown away to such an extent and distance that the official "panckake theory collapse" could have never ever caused?this issue also remains untouched by the dutch television documentary.
on the note of crystalised matter plz explain the passports of the alleged highjackers that were found undamaged and intact as opposed to all other paper material in the rubble?
another very important point is that according to the FAA flights 93 and 175 are listed as still valied while flights 11 and 77 are listed as destroyd,another crucial point that was left untouched by the dutch television documentary.
next,the alleged phone calls(u just gotta have atleast 2 brain cells working together to figure this one out for yourself),ok i got tempted to mention the funniest one,a man claiming to be mark bingham called his mother alice who was visiting his sister in law,the caller says 'mom,this is mark bingham,"when was the last time u called your mother and used your full name?he then continues.."i just want to tell u that i love u.im on a flight from newark to san francisco and there are 3 guys on board and the have taken over a plane and the say the have a bomb."at some point he added,"im calling u from the airfone",and then asked,"you believe me,dont u mom?"
im getting tired here so ill point out one more thing.that would be the alleged highjackers.
this is one of the biggest shams of the official story thanx to the fact that 9 of the highjackers are still alive!!!!
on sept 14th 2001 the department of justice released photos and info of the alleged 19 highjackers,but on sept 23rd the bbc reported that 9 of them are alive and well!!
thing is that the real people in power,not bush or others like him they are just puppets working for their hidden masters,the ones who r really incharge you would never see on tv and newspapers,these "things,"(im not even gonna reffer to them as people,cause no human being is capable of such mass murder on a global scale)these "things" are cold blooded mass murderers.
to further advnace their agenda of domination over the human race and to advance the take over of the middle east they needed an "image" hence the corans that were left everywhere and the alleged paper passport that survived the crystalisation of the twin towers,and alleged highjackers who r still alive!the "image" was implanted in american peoples minds minutes afetr the attacks with pic`s of ossama and the "mantra" they use every time they r trying to sell us a fabricated "official story".the best form of mind control is repetition,and we had nothing but on mainstream media,all the time ossama,ossama,every channel u flip,and on the bottom of the screen they always have these other bits of information passing by also implanting information into your subconcious.
they played us good.reall good.but more and more of us are waking up and were not gonna let them play us anymore.this is why all this information is crucial in protecting yourself and fighting this global version of nazi germany new world order that has already broken a hole in our door.knowing their tricks and how they work and manipulate us will empower u for future events,helping u in being more carefull in believing what u hear from mainstream media and official governemnt sources.i think that those of you who still deny this massive cover up are just too scared to face reality,you are pleased with the information you get from mainstream sources and dont even bother investigating for yourself cause it might crash your whole perspective of our world today and whats really going on behind the scenes that are orchestrated by the elite.you are much more comfortable with the way things are you dont need anything 'scary" or "controversial" to interfere with anything in your life,fine.thats your choice,your life dudes,i wish u the best life u ever imagine for yourselves,infinite love to all of you.
RaknahS MooB!
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ASTARTICA
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Posted : May 13, 2007 23:51
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just another inside job - like years and centuries before.
the same group of ppl set-up a lot of evil things - history repeating -
wwI, wwII and know we´re just a few steps away from wwIII, the signs a clear so be prepared of a really blasting autumn 07!
but thats just the result of my research, wich i started more than 10 years ago and i hope that i´m absolutely wrong with my result!!!
if anyone is really interested in truth, keep away from BBC controlled (big brother corp.) mass-media!
btw don´t forget wtc building nr7 (cia) - they pull it a few hours later and no airplane/bomb hit it! Any questions?!?!?!
we´ve to stand up and fight all together against the NWO
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EarWorm
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Posted : May 14, 2007 00:07
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One Question: One Answer
"Cowardice asks the question - is it safe?
Expediency asks the question - is it politic?
Vanity asks the question - is it popular?
But conscience asks the question - is it right?
And there comes a time when one must take a position that neither safe, nor politic, nor popular; but one must take because it is right." Dr Martin Luther King, Jr
Getting rid of the negative force that is controlling our planet is a hard task but not the only one. We have to realise that we are creating our reality by the day. And if we take our powers back into our hands the house of cards will fall...because in truth it's nothing but a house of cards.
Infinitley Yours,
Max
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Magox
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Posted : May 21, 2007 23:46
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On 2006-11-12 23:23, traveller wrote:
You know what's really funny. Iraq was the only OPEC country that sold oil in € instead of $
What goes for 9/11.. I'm sure there's more to it than what we're told in the media
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now there are more OPEC nations that are accepting the EURO over the DOLLAR...
it's pretty simple.....the $ is devaluating precipitously and the Euro is gaining strength. Hmmmmmmm, hard choice, let's see which one i want, a devaluating dollar or an appreciating EURO.
All though i do agree that Mr. Hussein probably did the conversion from $ to Euro due to more of a defiant approach than anything else.
Now it seems that Iran is doing the same thing and there are many more that are starting to follow, which I am sure that the yanks can't be to happy about, and not only are they accepting Euro over $ as payment but they are changing a lot of there $ reserves into hard assets like gold now. Bottom line, it looks pretty bleak for the U.S Dollar.
As far as these video's on conspiracy theories having to do with 9/11....Like Mr. Moore's as an example....
all i can say about that is......
BUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
I'm sorry, if you believe these Conspiracy theories, it's either one of three things.
One, your just reaching to find a story, a conspiracist. Which this is probably the most likely scenario and i don't lend any credibility to it.
Two, you are a Northamerican basher. Which there are many in this world, and i would say there are more of these people than not.
or three, your extremely naive.
Come on.... do you really believe this bullshit?!?!?!?????
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Alias
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Posted : May 22, 2007 00:54
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On 2006-11-12 23:23, traveller wrote:
You know what's really funny. Iraq was the only OPEC country that sold oil in € instead of $
What goes for 9/11.. I'm sure there's more to it than what we're told in the media
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dude....venezuela , iran and other opec members...selling their natural resourses in euro!...
so learn before you posting such a bullshit!
i prefer dollar and american imperialism than
european massmurder and robbery of the third world!
dont forget european nato genocide in afghanistan and
africa...for fucking bloody diamonds! www.myspace.com/aliasix |
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phazed
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Posted : May 23, 2007 08:41
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On 2007-05-11 02:38, EarWorm wrote:
9/11 was an inside job, period. This little trick has been played on the human collective mind for ages and it worked like a charm. Problem-Reaction-Solution. They(illuminati) convertley create a problem ie. 9/11, 7/7 london bombings. You then wait for the reaction from the people "This can't go on, something must be done! What are they going to do about it?". Then those who convertley create the problems offer their solutions to the problems they have created. You see? You have to understand that we are dealing with ruthless, sadistic mass murderers that will do what ever it takes in order to advance their adgenda. America is long gone folks, and now they are going after the whole world. But you have to understand that the USA is just a vehicle to advance this global agenda, that's why they don't give a shit about the american people and never did. "Over 3000 lives have been taken away on 9/11...The governemnt whouldn't do that!" pfffttt...you must be joking! Think again! Who benefited from these attacks? The religious fanatic muslims? Or the corporate facists of the illuminati agenda? Look for yourself what happened after 9/11...More and more basic freedoms have been taken away: the patriot act, surveillance of american citiczens everywhere, phone wire tapping by the governement...and now the National Identity Cards are being pushed, and the next step is the Microchiped Population. Far Fetched you say? Think again! All this stuff are public and are being fed to us by the redicilous mass media(which they control btw) as a good thing. But...it doesn't matter because we are multidimentional infinity, we are everything that exists. They are tiny insignificant weaklings that do not have the power to create anything...so they use us to be their slaves. We are coming to an age of universal consciousness drift, where nothing will be the same anymore. That's why everything is changing, all the lies are coming to the light, all the corruption is being exposed. Hard and challenging times are ahead of us, no doubt about it, so be kind to yourself. As we are all in this as one. We are freedom fighters from the source of Infinite Love, who believe in everything PURE, everything BEAUTIFUL, and everything that's RIGHT against those who always try to shut us up and tell us to keep following the white line. But no more...because the Revolution of universal consciousness has arrived...BIG TIME. You can feel it's around the corner, you can smell it everywhre you go. I know you're saying "no mate, I don't see anything"...but it's there, look closer, tune in to it and it will take you to the source of who you really are...INFNITE LOVE
Infniteley Yours,
Me, You, Infinite onsciousness
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faaak! i was having the same conversation with a friend couple of days back. You right man.. BIG change is just around the corner!
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EarWorm
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Posted : May 23, 2007 18:20
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Hehehe...Yep it's here for sure man. But the sad part is many people are mentally blindfloded not to realize this and stay asleep. That's why we are doing what we are doing...waking up those who are still dreaming.
Infinitely Yours,
Max
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