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80/20 rule (Pareto principle) application to music production

thecrimsonchin

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Posted : Mar 6, 2014 21:41:48
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareto_principle

Basically, 80% of results should come from 20% of the work.

I'm curious what you think that 20% is.

Thanks
snowdogg
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Posted : Mar 6, 2014 21:57
i dont know, this pareto principle is used for population and wealth/business. wouldn't it be great if we could apply it to everything in life though?, or at least it might make a nice comedy skit.

how to apply it? hmm if i do 20% of the work: like turn on my monitors but neglect to turn on my computer, synth & mouse, im not going to get a lot done, dare i say not even close to 80%

peace
Xsze


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Posted : Mar 6, 2014 22:04
"Less is more" IMO, it’s applicable to that, we already covered "less is more" phenomena on numerous occasions, so to cut the crap, it's "less is more" for me
thecrimsonchin

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Posted : Mar 7, 2014 04:43
"how to apply it? hmm if i do 20% of the work: like turn on my monitors but neglect to turn on my computer, synth & mouse, im not going to get a lot done, dare i say not even close to 80% "

I must have been to general. I mean work on a track , turning on my equipment is not work.

I'm talking about things like Arrangement, sound design, mixing....

Apllying this to music in general is something like 20% of all chord progressions make up 80% of popular music
Xsze


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Posted : Mar 7, 2014 05:11
I get it now

20% of discontinued synths makes 80% of all psytrance basslines hahaha
frisbeehead
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Posted : Mar 7, 2014 05:37
Quote:

On 2014-03-07 05:11, Xsze wrote:
I get it now

20% of discontinued synths makes 80% of all psytrance basslines hahaha




nice nice xD
goaboa

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Posted : Mar 11, 2014 22:09
These 20% make the difference in any sense and forms of art. "Less is more", 10 Laws Of Simplicity, Pareto principle basically the ways of extracting the essence.

In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is.           

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knocz
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Posted : Mar 13, 2014 01:21
In my line of business, 80% is tests and 20% is actual work.. but in the end doing the extra work pays off, as it results in a better quality - take the best leads and put then in a poorly worked out context, and it wont be killlarrrggg; work the extra 80% to get the extra 20% of results, and it will be a polished quality result.
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Sgt-Kabukiman


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Posted : Mar 13, 2014 09:42
Since the rule is a terminological one, you have to have a certain set of terms that work as criteria for it to be applied in a predictive way.
When it's applied to economic phenomena, it's rather easy to identify these terms, insofar the relation between numerical values is unambiguous. Hence it's easy to see weather the rule took place or not and which factors are essential for it to take place.

When it comes to music or other aesthetic domains, I doubt that there are any unambiguous values that can serve as unequestionable criteria.
Sure, you can try to find your very own criteria that necessarily need to be met for the result to sound pleasant to you. However, these might not be sufficient for other peoples tastes. In addition, strictly sticking to the 20% of working steps that you have identified to be crucial, your music would sound pretty much the same all the time.

In consequence: you (probably) can't stipulate any general terms/criteria that need to be met for music to sound nice to everyone who listens to it and you'd sound pretty boring after the first few tracks.

But isn't 'producing' about the creative process and the joy we get from that process anyway?
aje
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Posted : Mar 13, 2014 10:36
Well, I have written tracks where in 20% of the time I made 80% of the track, and the I spent the remaining 80% of the time fixing the details, or in other words the last 20% of the track.

Thats probably how it is most of the time, especially when you make various versions of a track that you keep reiterating. But then I have done tracks in one night and they were done where this didnt apply.           Check out my album: http://www.ektoplazm.com/free-music/gay-satanic-hippie-tiefenrausch
moleqlarsuperstructure
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Posted : Mar 13, 2014 13:55
exact. the creativ workflow mostly is a very quick process but to make those ideas big....


art is beautiful but a fucking lot of work
          
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