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5 Steps: Write Music Faster & Better
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Trevon
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Posted : Aug 15, 2011 02:37
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my method:
1. sound design (kick+bass first  perc, main synth patch, base melodie or chords, first fxs) on a loop, 8 bar.
with a bit of 4. mixdown (I start polishing sounds right away, adding compressors, adding delays, reverbs)
then I do 3. arrangment. very sketchy to get an overhall sense of the entire track. I extend kick, bass, synths. then I start creating variation patterns for each one of them, section by section. I also place fx and cymbals. start designing automation.
I keep adding elements as I go along, instead of having them all defined at start, so I go back to sound design stage again and also do more mixdown.
add more synths, fx.. work on the breakdowns blabla bla.
back and forward 
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Padmapani
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Posted : Aug 15, 2011 06:28
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i don't follow that route at all. to me it's impossible to do so.
when designing sounds, i find it much easier if there's already a pattern playing, so melodies/chord progessions come right after kick+bass (sometimes even the bass comes later). then i'll build a "library" of loops while designing new sounds (includes effects like chorus, delay, eq, reverb for me; so there's even a part of the mixdown done here).
afterwards i build an outline of around half of the track (it usually just happens automatically when individual loops come after one another ). next i finish the track (that's the most fun part for me) again in the 3 stages sound design, "recording", arrangement. then comes the "mixdown" which is usually just tweaking until everything sounds right, then bounce and "mastering". which of course doesn't mean that i won't go back and add or delete some elements when i'm still not satisfied 
it's fun that way and i wouldn't want to follow a strict set of rules. especially when the track tells me otherwise . (if you are in arrangement and some acidline would fit soo perfectly you can't tell me that you wouldn't add it because you've already passed the sound design and "recording" stages!) |
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Sheil
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Posted : Aug 15, 2011 07:43
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ok first of all, THANK YOU!! it's like one of those days when you wake up and walk around wearing your shorts inside out, and don't realize it until someone points it out. As simple and common sense-ish that this was, it was revelatory for me. cause i always got it fundamentally wrong. i kept losing "the creative flow" by bloody reading compression manuals and reverb settings before introducing any new sound. once again, THANK YOU!!!!!!!! |
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aXis
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Posted : Aug 15, 2011 08:05
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On 2011-08-15 01:49, makus wrote:
this tutorial is probably helpful for newbies,
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either u are a super oldie
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u are ignorant to the fact that the guy who is featured in the video is probably one of the gr8 producers world has right now .
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aXis
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Posted : Aug 15, 2011 08:07
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n this guy is a little bit more specific towards ableton.
You can not do this route in cubase at its full efficiency. of course, i can't prove it online , but if u do have a chance try both the softwares, ull know wat i mean. |
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willsanquil
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Posted : Aug 15, 2011 08:08
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Regardless axis, that has nothing to do with what Makus posted.
I don't know who that dude is. His advice is solid - for people who are having trouble getting started or have trouble finishing tunes.
It's a very simplistic framework.
 If you want to make an apple pie from scratch...you must first invent the universe
www.soundcloud.com/tasp
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faxinadu
Faxi Nadu / Elmooht
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Posted : Aug 15, 2011 08:09
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On 2011-08-15 01:51, PoM wrote:
the thing it to optimize my workflow when the inspiration strike i don t loose time by browsing hundreds of sample or presets
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exactly
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+1
The Way Back
https://faxinadu.bandcamp.com/album/the-way-back |
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makus
Overdream
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Posted : Aug 15, 2011 09:38
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axis, with all due respect to one of the gr8 producers world has right now, you didn't get me right.
not sure if you heard that any tuition might be divided to difficulty levels. if the guy teaches you some basic stuff that doesn't mean he is lame, right?
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the advises he gives you do fit any sequencer, platform, daw or analog world. in other words it doesn't matter Cubase or Live.
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you won't be able to prove it offline neither.
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and third I use live since late 2007, for what it means to be used - lives (i tried producing psychedelic there, but for my kind of music and for my workflow it was very limiting. minimal techno is a bit better, though.)
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Upavas
Upavas
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Posted : Aug 15, 2011 09:50
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I think a big part of doing things for me has always been to develop the method that suits me best, tutorials like these have helped me a lot with certain technical things, but I cannot say that I use this workflow.
I have recently found an interesting iphone app, a complete mastering tutorial, downloaded it, went through it, very good advice in there, but I had to sift through a lot of beginner stuff, like routing and so on, so with patience on my side I was able to coerce quite a bit of very good info out of it... it just took so much time...
My workflow, first kb, then whatever the rest... pretty much...
Upavas - Here And Now (Sangoma Rec.) new EP out Oct.29th, get it here:
http://timecode.bandcamp.com
http://upavas.com
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aXis
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Posted : Aug 15, 2011 15:37
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i think starting a track with kb will never help u write a great hook.
anyways . If kb is ur fantasy. Stick to cubsae. If u want to write music , meaningful wit emotions and cinematic appeal, u gotta start with chords/melody/n such.
Starting wit kb and 'making sounds' do not make a track. |
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Nectarios
Martian Arts
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Posted : Aug 15, 2011 15:53
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_Amos_
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Posted : Aug 15, 2011 16:12
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think it's all about finding your own work flow while you create your music. for me i find my way of producing trax faster by makeing a start loop with 2-3 minuts then arrange the musik around it. theres no point of makeing a track fast if you are unhappy about it. take your time creating music. now day's music sounds like crap becouse it's to ofen fast made. Like some one told me, "the city Rom(in italy) wasn't made in a day". |
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psyraal
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Posted : Aug 15, 2011 16:58
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On 2011-08-15 15:37, aXis wrote:
i think starting a track with kb will never help u write a great hook.
anyways . If kb is ur fantasy. Stick to cubsae. If u want to write music , meaningful wit emotions and cinematic appeal, u gotta start with chords/melody/n such.
Starting wit kb and 'making sounds' do not make a track.
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My method of making music isn't the regular way of constructing a solid ground for the tune (k n'b). I just make an atmosphere, not for intro purposes. Since i have a way to make intense atmos these days i pick the most devastating ones and i give them a chance to become a full on night tune. Strangely i can only design the sickest atmos by night.
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aciduss
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Posted : Aug 15, 2011 18:35
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On 2011-08-15 15:53, disco hooligans wrote:
My own method.
1) score some good bud
2) the music takes over and does what it wants to do in the order it feels like.
Peace out.
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LOL DH you make my day... u so stoner!
I just have like 2 hats for my production:
Creative:
Synth making, knob twisting, perc and melo writing, sonic imagenery creation...
Technical: Mixing, bouncing, rendering, mastering blah blah.
Best speed improvement for me has come from:
- Shortcuts
- Presets (my own)
- Perfect knowledge of equipment
- Unpluggin internet from my DAW computer
- Knowing how I want a track to sound like then going straight for it
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Beat Agency
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Posted : Aug 15, 2011 19:27
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I really do not care if a tune takes 5 months or 1 day. Its the end result that matters. All this talk about being more efficient and speed up the work process is weird to me. I thought it was all about being creative and not about how fast and efficient you work.
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