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alientrancesistor
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Posted : Mar 25, 2010 03:01:49
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hey guys!!
i am after some info regarding all the 5.1 music released in psychedelic trance and who are artists behind it??and also on wht medium were they released like dvd or digital downloads..and any tips on 5.1 surround sound mixing will be a great help
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Upavas
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Posted : Mar 25, 2010 03:12
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Some have done "5.1 live sets" meaning taking a master channel and putting a decoder on it. None has been released as far as I know.
Surround mixing is a whole other level of mixing. You have to take into consideration that you might get a lot more phase cancellation than in stereo, due to the way the speakers are arranged. There's the tip 
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alientrancesistor
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Posted : Mar 25, 2010 03:37
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@ upvas cool tahnks for the info..btw i have some experience in 5.1 surround sound for movies like post production..but never mixed music...
but i remember couple of artists who have just single tracks in 5.1 but not sure about the artist name |
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Upavas
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Posted : Mar 26, 2010 09:59
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Well, then you have it, basically mixing music is similar to film, at least in 5.1
The same rules apply, at least most of the time.
I have been trying to get people here to experiment with 5.1. They all seem to be hooked on stereo(including labels), and considering many don't even have 5.1 home systems I think no one really bothers...
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WHICH IS A CRYING SHAME !!!
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-aeon-
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Posted : Mar 26, 2010 11:09
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we are planning a surround party in london in winter...
it will probably be quadraphonic. it seems to be the best compromise.
a couple of well known artists already signed up... and looking for a few more
mixing music in surround is fun, but imho it's easier to write in surround from the start. and much, much more enjoyable!
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alientrancesistor
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Posted : Mar 26, 2010 12:32
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@ upvas yehh ur point is very true its due to lack of the 5.1 system accessebilty they are stuck with stereo..and u have to be always be in centre and listen to it...hmm quadraphonic will be better. i mean better in terms of listening position ppl need not have to face always in front....and also i think there are no much releases bcoz of the release medium...but yehh there wont be much of a problem if its a digital dwnload ...
yehh i have mixed movie clips which also includes back ground score..but yehh this will be my first exclusive 5.1 surround sound psy trance mix...i have finished my production on abelton..need to start mixing on IKON console...btw i was looking for any 5.1 track which has been released??so that i can atleast get a rough idea..hw does it sound
@ aeon for sure its fun ...but i am just mixing in surround..well after the mix is done will send it to u for some reviews...all teh best good concept
more info please
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mk47
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Posted : Mar 26, 2010 15:39
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i think freeform human released a 5.1 dvd version of their album : arnika
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dreadieg
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Posted : Mar 26, 2010 22:18
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dumb question i suppose, but where does one start for 5.1 production? (besides a 5.1 surround system)
do you need a program for it? hardware? some weird alien device? |
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Upavas
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Posted : Mar 26, 2010 22:58
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On 2010-03-26 12:32, alientrancesistor wrote:
@ upvas yehh ur point is very true its due to lack of the 5.1 system accessebilty they are stuck with stereo..and u have to be always be in centre and listen to it...hmm quadraphonic will be better. i mean better in terms of listening position ppl need not have to face always in front....and also i think there are no much releases bcoz of the release medium...but yehh there wont be much of a problem if its a digital dwnload ...
yehh i have mixed movie clips which also includes back ground score..but yehh this will be my first exclusive 5.1 surround sound psy trance mix...i have finished my production on abelton..need to start mixing on IKON console...btw i was looking for any 5.1 track which has been released??so that i can atleast get a rough idea..hw does it sound
@ aeon for sure its fun ...but i am just mixing in surround..well after the mix is done will send it to u for some reviews...all teh best good concept
more info please
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I still reckon 5.1 beats quadrophonic by a long shot.
Would love to hear your mix when it's finished. Mind you, did you have to rub the IKON in?
Jealousy !!!! I want one too.... 
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alientrancesistor
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Posted : Mar 27, 2010 05:10
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for sure bro..yehh have mixed quite a bit on ikon...and i just love the desk...its so bloody user friendly... |
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-aeon-
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Posted : Mar 27, 2010 10:50
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i chose quadraphonic because it's much easier to implement.
everyone will come to their own conclusions i guess... here's how i thought about it:
firstly, there's no point in having a .1 channel - any decent rig will already put out loads of sub, and we write our music with anything below 100hz to be coming out the main stereo pair. so there's no point having an LFE channel at all.
secondly, why do we need a center front channel? we already have stuff panned center anyway, and where would you put it, underneath the stage?
thirdly, a quad setup is appealing because all you need is four stacks... and stacks tend to come in pairs  in fact the way we have talked about doing it you would have a regular rig like usual, then two smaller stacks (for left and right rear channels). the stacks would be smaller because i don't think we'd want much bass coming from the rear channels... no point in having long waveforms bumping into each other, bass will penetrate from the front anyway.
so the idea is that the rear channels are fed through a delay which is used to calibrate the setup to the room size; and they have a crossover set to stop too much bass coming through.
i thought about it a lot last year and that was the most practical solution i could come up with... in terms of actually doing it at a party without too much hassle.
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alientrancesistor
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Posted : Mar 29, 2010 13:45
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hw abt the kick and the bass in surround sound guys?..do u keep it at C or LR |
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FaceHead
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Posted : Mar 30, 2010 00:30
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thats where the .1 comes into play since most kicks and basses are are mono or work fine mono then you have the subs hooked up as a mono channel
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FaceHead
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Posted : Mar 30, 2010 00:30
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unless you have enoough to put a sub at the base of every speaker
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Upavas
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Posted : Mar 30, 2010 02:30
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