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billy ambulance
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Posted : Dec 30, 2003 11:03
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have someone ever heard a track in 7/8?
I once made a remix to some old "camel" melody but it was on 7/8 so the track got some really different feeling. its like youre missing the last beat of the bar and start all over..of course I switched to 4/4 at some point.
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YAT (vxzp violation)
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Posted : Dec 30, 2003 11:59
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you welcome m8 
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solipt1c
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Posted : Dec 31, 2003 01:59
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billy.... the true genious of working with unusual time signatures is making it sound 100% natural
the ozrics are pretty much the masters
i dont think i've done 7/8 before... i made a dnb track in 17/8 once but it wasnt terrifically good
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billy ambulance
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Posted : Dec 31, 2003 14:55
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but makin bizare time signatures on GROOVE is not that hard as on BEAT. that means that you got kick on every quarter. Im not a genius but my 7/8 track works really well but its not finish yet. maybe I`ll upload the 1st half of it to my site so you can hear the example.
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timsensient
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Posted : Dec 31, 2003 21:19
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good way to use odd timing without affecting the main "dance" groove too much is to make a melody 7/8 over a normal 4/4 beat. About 6/8 in trance...i never liked it, as soon as i hear it on the dancefloor its stops me dancing
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Pavel
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Posted : Dec 31, 2003 22:04
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On 2003-12-30 11:03, billy ambulance wrote:
have someone ever heard a track in 7/8?
I once made a remix to some old "camel" melody but it was on 7/8 so the track got some really different feeling. its like youre missing the last beat of the bar and start all over..of course I switched to 4/4 at some point.
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There are two tracks in the first Shulman album that sound 7/8 to me and there's also Shpongle's DMT that i think also uses this signature.
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Reconstructed
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Posted : Dec 31, 2003 23:00
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Shpongles DMT switches from 4/4 to 6/8 at the time when the Xylo does its magical change.
The shpongle track that is 7/8 is "...And the Day Turned to Night" which is my all-time favorite! |
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nick
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Posted : Dec 31, 2003 23:05
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in response to soliptic, although I don't have a copy of The Lone Deranger with me, I can assure you there is at least one track on it in 3/4, not to be confused with the few tracks that morph from 4/4 triplets of eighths to straight sixteenths and vice-versa.
regarding morphing, it can be done several ways. you can manually push the notes as described in a previous posts, tick by tick. more complicated, you can read the logic manual regarding polyrythms and the Lock to SMPTE function. pretty complicated.
Or, I programmed a morphing stepsequencer in MaxMSP. Any pattern can be morphed to any pattern, notes that were at the beginning of the bar can end up at the end. You can even morph the velocity and pitch, too. It's a bit buggy but it works. if anybody wants to have a go at it, lemme know.
I did a track last year that has some morphing acid line, triplets to sixteenths. I'm working on a 3/4 track now.
Also, regarding the Shpongle morph (I think it's in DMT if I recall), it's between 12/8 and 3/4. Divide a bar into 12. Put an accent every 3 (that gives 12/8) or every 4 (that's 3/4).
Read a text on basic music theory.
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Ulf:G
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Posted : Jan 4, 2004 12:42
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3/4? wow..
let's go waltzing mathilda...
I think we made a few tunes in 3/4 however. |
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nick
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Posted : Jan 5, 2004 07:44
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heh yeah it's a challenge to write riffs in 3/4 that DON'T sound like a waltz.
you get the opportuniy to do 4:3 polyrhythms of cours, with the 3 being the three kicks in the bar and the 4 the four accents of your riff. fun fun fun |
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