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JUGGERNAUT
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Posted : Dec 29, 2008 12:20:21
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hello, just wondering if anybody buys these files and if you can notice a difference on a big soundsystem. its $1.50 for 320 kbps and $2.50 for wavs. iwas thinking wavs but if you cant notice a differnce id just get the 320 kbps.
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hugaw
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Posted : Dec 29, 2008 12:34
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i only order wavs myself...mp3s are cheaper but not sure of the REAL quality. i mean, played on a big system
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Tryptagon
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Posted : Dec 29, 2008 14:21
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Yes u can hear a big difference between 320 kbps and 1411 kbps,the compression cuts away very much.
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JUGGERNAUT
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Posted : Dec 29, 2008 14:31
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thanks guys, ill buy the wavs. V |
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ohshit
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Posted : Dec 29, 2008 19:36
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Kane
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Posted : Dec 29, 2008 21:25
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On 2008-12-29 19:36, ohshit wrote:
And i think it can be problematic also to create a GOOD mixdown in mp3 from mp3s (due to the double compression).
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Yeah this will sound REALLY terrible, but what does that have to do with digital download files?
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ohshit
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Posted : Dec 30, 2008 11:05
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@kane: I mean that if I have to choose between $1.50 for 320 kbps and $2.50 for wavs I'll chose the wavs for sure so if I want to make some mixes and put the result in my iPod-like player (or to share on the net) I can do it with a decent quality.
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Kane
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Posted : Dec 30, 2008 14:17
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ah..got it 
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PoM
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Posted : Dec 30, 2008 14:26
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depends how it s encoded but if it s done well no one ll notice it on the dancefloor, but for a small price difference like that i would go with wav |
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neuromantik
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Posted : Dec 30, 2008 15:44
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There is no difference in sound, everyone saying differently is contradicting many studies regarding differentiating mp3s and wavs..
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Kane
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Posted : Dec 30, 2008 17:35
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^I'll agree that there is less of a difference in an outdoor environment with a decent amount of noise, but the difference is still there, if not as significant. Home listening is a completely different story, and on a decent system (especially with decent headphones) there is an exceptional difference, particularly in the high end. I'm not saying that mp3 is a bad format, but I prefer to listen to wav/flac/aiff whenever possible.
Where are these "many studies"?
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Spindrift
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Posted : Dec 30, 2008 18:31
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I have been posting a few link in earlier discussion about mp3 vs lossless, and if you search a bit at hydrogenaudio I'm sure you can find some test cariied out by users there.
It's not a lot of testing of 320k vs wav done though because to anyone doing serious ABX testing that is a waste of time. At those bitrates you will only be able to tell the difference on rare occasions when the material happens to be problematic to handle for the encoder.
When DJ'ing you might like ohshit said record the set down mp3 and also you might apply processing in the mix which then breaks down the psychoacoustic model...so I surely prefer FLAC or wav. But it's a joke to charge 160% of an mp3 for lossless, and I cannot see any justification for that price difference.
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Posted : Dec 30, 2008 20:34
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Kane
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Posted : Dec 30, 2008 23:55
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^Why would it be the same? You're paying for more of their bandwidth (ftp wise)...otherwise it would be all wave and flac.
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PoM
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Posted : Dec 31, 2008 02:42
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to tell there is a difference it s more easy than telling wich one sound better in a blind test |
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