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Posted : May 21, 2011 09:43:14
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elastic_plastic
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Posted : May 21, 2011 10:00
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i dont think so!! |
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PoM
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Posted : May 21, 2011 14:11
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it s converted to 32 bit float by the daw , the quality is not affected.
it s at the output of the daw appropriate dithering can be used if you export audio to 24 bits but if you don't the errors are very very low it shouldn't affect the quality or just marginally. Export at 32 bit float if you can so you dont have to worry with all this. |
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monno
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Posted : May 21, 2011 16:25
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24 Bit is the "de facto" industry standard.
You already have ample dynamic headroom and very, very low noise floor with 24 Bit.
The reason why most programs do their calculations in 32 Bit float, is to keep some additional mathematical headroom if you will, to ensure a minimum of truncation and consequent dithering when bouncing down even to 24 bit (Adding many streams of audio results in longer wordlenghts bigger than 24 bit and working with 32 Bit files would theoretically exacerbate this issue)
What can be theoretically gained might just as easily be negated. 32 Bit files are larger and takes up more space with no proved advantage. You are better off working at higher sampling rates as the extra space taken by such a move will actually benefit you more than going from 24 to 32 bit.
Additionally i might add, that i always frown upon people sending me 32 bit files for mastering, as it involves one extra step of conversion (= unnecesary processing with potential loss of definition) to load such files into my system (which operates strictly on the accepted standards for reasons of compatibility)
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demoniac
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Posted : May 21, 2011 18:30
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On 2011-05-21 16:25, monno wrote:
24 Bit is the "de facto" industry standard.
You already have ample dynamic headroom and very, very low noise floor with 24 Bit.
The reason why most programs do their calculations in 32 Bit float, is to keep some additional mathematical headroom if you will, to ensure a minimum of truncation and consequent dithering when bouncing down even to 24 bit (Adding many streams of audio results in longer wordlenghts bigger than 24 bit and working with 32 Bit files would theoretically exacerbate this issue)
What can be theoretically gained might just as easily be negated. 32 Bit files are larger and takes up more space with no proved advantage. You are better off working at higher sampling rates as the extra space taken by such a move will actually benefit you more than going from 24 to 32 bit.
Additionally i might add, that i always frown upon people sending me 32 bit files for mastering, as it involves one extra step of conversion (= unnecesary processing with potential loss of definition) to load such files into my system (which operates strictly on the accepted standards for reasons of compatibility)
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So you would recommend working in 24 bit 88000 hz rather then 32 bit 44000?
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PoM
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Posted : May 21, 2011 20:29
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the bitrate in the settings are for the file you record or bounce ,all daw i know work are 32/64 bit float or 48 bit.
for daw like cubase that work at 32 bit float exporting files at 32 bit float avoid multiple convertion when you bounce file like synth and other stuff.
for final rendering 24 bit is the standar but 32 bit float is maybe marginally better if the mastering engeinner use a software that can open 32 bit float files.(for avoiding 32>24>32 )
higher sample rate is often better with software for aliasing but it take double of cpu for small improvment (and your sample are all in 44.1 i guess so you would have to convert them , it s pain in the ass workflow and you get some loss from the convertion but not much with a good sample rate converter) |
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : May 22, 2011 04:53
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On 2011-05-21 20:29, PoM wrote:
the bitrate in the settings are for the file you record or bounce ,all daw i know work are 32/64 bit float or 48 bit.
for daw like cubase that work at 32 bit float exporting files at 32 bit float avoid multiple convertion when you bounce file like synth and other stuff.
for final rendering 24 bit is the standar but 32 bit float is maybe marginally better if the mastering engeinner use a software that can open 32 bit float files.(for avoiding 32>24>32 )
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This. Quantisation noise is introduced whenever a fixed-point audio file is processed. This effect is minimal with a 24-bit file but it's still there; rendering premasters at 32-bit FP has a small advantage in terms of dynamic range. In fact, this difference is so small that it would take an exceptional set of ears to hear it under most circumstances; nonetheless IMO there is never any reason to compromise in terms of quality, so I would recommend using 32-bit where appropriate.
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elastic_plastic
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Posted : May 22, 2011 09:33
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it will also take more space!!! haha |
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : May 22, 2011 15:42
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elastic_plastic
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Posted : May 23, 2011 09:04
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still costs money!! not free!! hehe |
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Shiranui
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Posted : May 23, 2011 10:31
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The final conversion from 24 bit or 32 bit down to 16 bit introduces quantization noise which is many many times louder than any noise which is introduced by 24-to-32 or 32-to-24 conversion, so in the end it doesn't matter that much at all. |
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