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___pacman7331
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Posted : Jul 28, 2001 04:32:48
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What are 303 Lines? I've heard them referred to allot. I was thinking it was when you have a beat (boom boom boom boom) and have a sound play every 1/16 note so it's like:
Booom, booom, booom, booom
tatatata,tatatata tatatata,tatatata
Is that a 303 line? if not WHAT DO YOU CALL THAT?
lots of good psytrance has em.
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___PsyTom
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Posted : Jul 28, 2001 19:30:53
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The TB 303 synthesizer is probably the first techno/trance synthesizer, and one of the first synthesizers in the world. If I remember it correct, a french guy (don't remember his name) discovered, that if you tweak it's cutoff and resonance knobs while plying the keys, you get a hypnotic sound that wasn't similar to anything at that time (70'-80'). The TB 303 was the corner stone to techno/trance oriented music and till these days you can hear its sound in many tracks (a hypnotic bass line with a lot of slides).
BTW - A nice emulation of the TB 303 is included with Rebirth, which would you to experience with its unique sound.
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___etherdesign
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Posted : Jul 28, 2001 20:40:13
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It was far from one of the first synthesizers in the world, there were tons before it, it was produced from 1982-1984 so it's really not all that old.. the TB-303 was put out by Roland along with the TR-606 as tools to replace a live bass player and drummer.. Of course that didn't really catch on and shortly thereafter these things were basically worthless (you could pick one up at a pawn shop or garage sale for like $20) until of course the acid house scene when yes I think it was DJ Pierre who first used it, now they sell for over $1000.. funny huh?
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___pacman7331
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Posted : Jul 29, 2001 09:46:08
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yeah i knew about the roland model 303 but. Is there a name for those 1/16 notes going thoughtout so many goa and psy tracks? Or do you just call it ..."those 16th notes"? sometimes even 1/32 beat. Anyone know what i'm talking about? for one beat there will be 4 beats of a 303 acid sound... some times hi-hats, it makes the song sound really fast and energetic... |
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___bilbobagginz
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Posted : Jul 29, 2001 14:31:39
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goa/trance/newage techno are all 4/4 based.
it makes the basic unit of rythm made of 1/16ths
so sometimes there's a part of 4/8 based [to add some groove or whatever]
so it's made of 1/32ths.
is this what u asked ?
BOM :=]
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___KhelProject
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Posted : Jul 29, 2001 15:32:34
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I have the MC-505 and I use sometimes 1/16 and
sometimes 1/32...
It depends on the groove, the filters you add,
the sample, and even the Ring module effects the
sound (in synth only)...
So this endless loop of the 16/32 notes is the
same loop you like to hear in you stereo player :) |
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___DCQ
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Posted : Jul 31, 2001 14:04:10
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acurately they should be referred to as quavers,
cos if you have a piece of music in 5/4 time, then technically speaking a 32nd is still a 32nd of a bar, and will not therefore be the same as the note length u r referring to
(ie: eighth of a beat)
but onone talks like that anyway, really |
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___pacman7331
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Posted : Aug 3, 2001 06:16:29
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ok i guess i'll call them quavers, i don't really understand your last post though queen... define Quaver? sounds like quaver is somthing else...
I like DJs that have sets full of "Quavers"... sounds so damn good at parties!
Wonder what Yuli calls them...
maybe we should think of a name for them. Because they are a characteristic of psytrance, just like 303 sounds are or "acid sounds" and just like Boom tss boom tss. THEY NEED A NAME! How about "trance lines" ? i dunno quaver sounds ... wierd.
get this: new american pop music is taking "quavers" or "trance lines" and using them in their new .... songs or whatever they call them... :)
people think it's some new sound... *sigh* it is to them i guesss. So if there isn't a name for them... lets discuss a term we could devise! any ideas? |
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___DCQ
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Posted : Aug 4, 2001 02:07:53
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no no no
quaver is a musical term
it is a defined note length |
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___ChillCrew
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Posted : Aug 5, 2001 00:17:39
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quaver is the eighth of a note. also means some sort of vibrato on a singer's voice (or a synth's line, whichever the case may be.). |
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___pacman7331
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Posted : Aug 10, 2001 07:17:00
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s-range - Morning Star , has a very nice one throughout the whole track. Also Oforia - Van Alien . Of course there are many other tracks, but i just wanted to give 2 examples so to make sure you all know what i'm talking about..... I wish i knew what to call them! i LOVE em |
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