TimeTraveller
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Posted : Apr 13, 2016 00:04:50
Are there any Phoscyon users here around?
How is your approach for using that synth? What mode do you prefer to compose your lines with?
Do you use one pattern per track or a whole bunch of different patterns, rather trhoughout a track - if you use a 303 acid in your track.
I am also interested in pattern chains.. I save my presets and load it on lets say to the keys c1-b1 than try to combine them patterns to my other sounds but I feel there must be an easier way.
well, original roland thing have 18db low pass fiter and some distorsion after it in the chain.
now every synth that has a 18db filter and distortion after it is your go to.
Try Serum, it has step sequencer in a LFO and all bell and wisthles you need.
Read the manual...
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Posted : Apr 22, 2016 11:21
Serum for 303.. I'm sure it can work as in almost any other virtual synthesizer but there are some dedicated Synths for acid lines. One of them, if not the most known for it, is Phoscyon by D16 Group. It's probably most authentic virtual 303 for many years. It is by far more similar to an original TB 303 than Serum and most other VSTi's.
Serum also doesn't have an option for slide and accent, some of that necesseary parameters for 303. There could exist ways around it though.
I'd more like to know how you use it. Such synths are not complex, but manual reading is a good idea, if you are not much into synthesis. I know it in and out but would know enough even without reading by such an easy signal flow that is acquired to have a 303 sound.
An original TB 303 doesn't have any LFO btw.
It's a bit different to speak about patterns, pattern chains and typical 303 stuff imo. That is what is really interesting here. It's not about how to reach a 303 sound with any synths. Just open Phoscyon and the sound is there. How to make an awesome tune with this thing, with what kind of techniques and all that mighty jazz that is possible with its sequencer and its modes - this is something that I'd like to discuss here.
Stil thanks for your input.https://soundcloud.com/shivagarden
frisbeehead
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Posted : Apr 22, 2016 18:01
This is a real ugly website but there's some cool insight into what makes the 303 unique and some under the wood (should I say plastic?) insight into it.
Despite the fact that you can sort of emulate just about anything with a bread and butter synth, there's still some unique characteristics to them - and hence their impact on the music industry and their legacy and why some companies like D16 go through the trouble of emulating all the circuitry and its inherent behavior.
Reading Serum's manual won't help if you're trying to make interesting acid lines. The thing with it, I think, is that it's fairly simple and the attention needs to go to the interaction between those parameters and careful tweaking to sort of groove along with the sequence you've written.
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Posted : Apr 24, 2016 14:52
The original had a 24 db filter (with a unique sound) but the manual incorrectly stated it to be a 18db filter. Which type is suited best on your synth depends very much on the filter characteristics. On my dominion I like the 12db filter for that. Audiorealism is regarded by many as the best emulation out there. If you distort the sound the differences won´t play a big role anyways. I like to use sylenth, hive, serum and abl itself. I often use ABL to trigger other Synth or export midifiles with it, cause I tend to come up with kind of classic patterns using this method.
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Posted : Apr 29, 2016 20:51
I often use sylenth for acid sounds. To me it is easier to make it sit well in the mix than phoscyon. For some reason I have great difficulty to get that synth to sit well.. But it is a great synth.
Usually some distortion (d16 stuff is great), delay (1/8D and 1/8) and reverb (little).
Regarding the filter, it is difficult to say. Sometimes some resonance sounds good, sometimes no resonance at all sounds better.
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Posted : May 8, 2016 01:58
The new Abl3 looks really nice. Also interesting that many of you use Sylenth for that kind of sounds.
I think it's nice to create such sounds on various machines.
