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wirakocha
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Posted : Aug 12, 2015 23:28:01
Hi colleagues here is some samples about my sound K&B that I were working hard lately
Here you can listen three samples each one made with different settings at 128 bpm
can you listen and tell me what samples sound for you better the 1st,2nd,3rd...

http://picosong.com/ugeu

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frisbeehead
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Posted : Aug 13, 2015 01:31
3rd
killik
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Posted : Aug 13, 2015 10:17
i like the character of the kick on 3rd.

id rather dance to 1st though. the clickyness is almost a little much, might drown in a crowdy mix anyway.           :O!
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knocz
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Posted : Aug 13, 2015 23:41
3rd sounds good, but way too much side-chaining Pumping all around!

I would put the 1st one in second place, but it sounds a bit plastic - try taking out (or modulating out with an envelope) a tad of the mid-bass of it.

Keep it going make a tune with each of these basses (one for each, one with all.. up to you )           Super Banana Sauce http://www.soundcloud.com/knocz
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Posted : Aug 16, 2015 18:37
the kick in 3 sounds best to my ears, but imho the bass doesn't accompany it well. i'd use kick 3 with another bass patch.
wirakocha
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Posted : Aug 18, 2015 22:42
Thanks to listen ,I'd like to share about these samples the kick was eating all my mix ,I tweek the bass envelope,filter envelope and the kick, i made from scratch again ,in this new sample you can hear the kick made with baszzim and you can hear three diferent kicks where i only change the seetings in fStart and vSweep
which one for you fit better???

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knocz
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Posted : Aug 20, 2015 16:44
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On 2015-08-18 22:42, wirakocha wrote:
which one for you fit better???


Still lots of pumping going around - not that I can really hear much difference in such a dense low end (seems heavily compressed), but since you say your are messing the kick settings, I could perhaps state that the kick at the end is slightly tighter.. but that could be due to the compression (shorter kick will have a lesser drive on the compressor).

Nevertheless it's sounding good man. Make the whole tune, don't stay too long on details (personally I would use a shelf to take a bit of the mids and highs out of the bass, its very audible in this range.. but then again psytrance of 2015 has different standards..)


P.S.: listening to the 3min track and 1min track a bunch of times really takes longer than 30 seconds           Super Banana Sauce http://www.soundcloud.com/knocz
wirakocha
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Posted : Aug 21, 2015 22:59
Hi Knocz thanks for the tips, the compressor setting of the kick is 8 ratio, 6 threshold,30 attack,200 release...

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ansolas
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Posted : Aug 24, 2015 13:19
I prefer the first.

The bass of the second sounds to much shaped for my taste.

The 3rd Kick is to saturated for my taste.           http://facebook.com/ansolas
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wirakocha
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Posted : Aug 26, 2015 22:18
thanks ansolas to listen ,what about this?
http://picosong.com/uKda

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frisbeehead
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Posted : Aug 26, 2015 22:53
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On 2015-08-20 16:44, knocz wrote:
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Nevertheless it's sounding good man. Make the whole tune, don't stay too long on details (personally I would use a shelf to take a bit of the mids and highs out of the bass, its very audible in this range.. but then again psytrance of 2015 has different standards..)







this! I'd use a high shelf on the Kick to, so it doesn't sound as ear piercing on the Highs, but doesn't sound unnatural either, like it would with a Low Pass filter. A very wide and smooth bell can work to - pultec style.
wirakocha
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Posted : Aug 27, 2015 01:08
I shelf high, down -16db from 3khz the bass, notch at 2khz for the crunchy,to the kick of the last sample i put in the top 8-10khz a noisehat for the presence of the kick in the highs...

Yes I use pultec eq in the mastering stage.



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frisbeehead
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Posted : Aug 27, 2015 05:54
Pultec kind of EQ works great on the individual channels as well, for both Kick and Bass, for many reasons: their gentle curves for one, the low end trick (boost+attenuation simultaneously), the dips on the mids usually are easy to set and do the job nicely + if you have some fancy emulation of it, likes waves or UAD, it also brings some juicy harmonics to the table.

Now about that kick again. You can do that, the layering of a hat on the Kick for more presence and to have those shinny high frequencies there. Layering is fine.

But you still need to balance the sound and high shelfs or the kind of curves on a EQP-1A, which is a very wide bell, is needed for controlling just the right amount of highs we allow it to have. It's all about being subtle, but surely a lot of highs gets painful and sounds wrong on a full mix - 'cause you simply need the space for other sounds.

All about having it pass through the mix, clearly, having all those frequencies there, nice presence, but not overwhelming. It's all about having the right amounts of all these things.
wirakocha
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Posted : Aug 31, 2015 20:45
frisbeehead thanks for the tips,this is the last sample I put pultec eq in both K&B

here you can listen it!

http://picosong.com/Jesa

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wirakocha
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Posted : Sep 10, 2015 01:31
lately i had found the trick about K&B this works amazing in progressive psy tunes not all tunes were made in this way E-clip made this kind of K&B ,to the kick i was using saturn but i put to much saturation to the low end instead i was using varisaturator voxengo that make me put in the low end of the kick the click of the bass on top you can look in the red circle of the imagen...
Also i resample the bass saw wave ,i used cronox 2 and cut one to 1/16 and 1/8 for the triplets part making this give more clarity (no artifacts) and space ,i don't need to use a sidechain because the last bass bar don't overlap with the kick...

http://scontent-mia1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/12002146_831430093638992_6883501211632483812_n.jpg?oh=d97194035f36e0e6fb0153cef5e1e375&oe=5672FEAA

and here you can listen the sample that i made.

http://picosong.com/JbEe

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