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Sektor666
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Posted : Aug 29, 2004 00:14
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hehehe pisssed off even him ........ so Yuli you back to Music Business ? |
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Sektor666
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Posted : Aug 29, 2004 00:46
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so now i do have another silly question to you smart guy ......
what the name of that signature ???
123456,123456
or kbbbbb
so next time i won't mistaken other ppl
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Yuli
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Posted : Aug 29, 2004 01:03
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No just bored of moving my house..
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| so now i do have another silly question to you smart guy ......
what the name of that signature ???
123456,123456
or kbbbbb
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Well my friend I am afraid to tell you there is no count tike the one u have suggested. If you really want you can open a book and see how 6/8 count looks like, and definitely it doesnt look like this.
6/8 count means that in one bar there are 6 notes of 1/8th length - that will look probabaly like this:
Kick And Kick And Kick And | Kick And Kick And Kick And... And so on ( Mind you you still have 4 sixteen notes on every kick / count )
3/4 count means that in one bar there are 3 notes of 1/4 length - that will look like:
Kick Kick Kick | Kick Kick Kick.. And so on.. BUT since in a quarter there are 4 1/16th notes, then still on every count / kick of yours there will be 4 1/16th notes, which will make it eventually pretty the same as the previous.
The main difference between the two as far as I know ( and surely I might be mistaken and hence considered as an asshole or shithead - the one that u prefer for your convenience ) is the matter of convenience... of course that 3/4 might have the feel of 'faster' but it is the same fata morgana as adding an open high hat on the 1/8th count and suddenly the track becomes 'faster'
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Yuli
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Posted : Aug 29, 2004 01:15
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And since there are a few misunderstandings here, I will expose here also the way TRIPLETS look like and u will recognize it easily...
Kick Bass Bass Kick Bass Bass Kick Bass Bass Kick Bass Bass |
In this case as u can see the count is different altogether from the others since it still has 4 KICKS/QUARTERS in a bar but every QUARTER is divided by 3 TRIPLET 1/8th notes or 6 TRIPLET 1/16th notes ( Those have a special way to write in a SCORE by the way, they come in groups of 3 or 6, united under a 'BRIDGE' )
While in 3/4 or 6/8 we have only 3 KICKS/QUARTERS in a bar and each QUARTER divided with 2 1/8th notes or 4 1/16th notes
I also advise to all that still doesnt get the differences between those counts to go into Cubase or Logic and set the key for 4/4 and choose to use the TRIPLETS. After u write Kik Bass combo in triplets, try to use percussive elements using normal 1/8th and 1/16th notes, u will find it is all wrong and your rhythm is all fucked up, and only on the QUARTERS times it will fit. The point is, that u will have to stick to be using triplets for whole the track, which induces the tribal atmosphere on a track, but on the other hand has less possibilites than the 'normal' counts. A man with a "master plan" is often a woman |
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Posted : Aug 29, 2004 10:40
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either no one read what i said, or no one understood what i said....
It's the 8th Triplet !!
I give up.
And Sektor,
kbbbbbkbbbbb is 16th triplet.
yuli - w0rd. Crackling universes dive into their own neverending crackle...
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Sektor666
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Posted : Aug 29, 2004 11:03
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so 3/4 and 6/8 is not the same thing from what you said !!!! dunno
sorry guys for my shit here ........
i commit a crime .... hehe |
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Yuli
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Posted : Aug 29, 2004 12:19
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Sector666
I will do it with large fonts:
IT IS THE SAME JUST HAS A DIFFERENT NAME AND SOME VERY SMALL NUANCES BUT ALL OF THEM NOT TECHNICAL ONES BUT POILITICAL ONES
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mquirk1
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Posted : Feb 11, 2005 03:37
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I know this topic is an old one but I though I'd add something here, I've had a lot of experience on time signature/feels being a drummer.
3/4 and 6/8 feel quite different actually.
When you have a bar of 3/4, you really have 3 pulses in the bar, each worth a crotchet (or quarter note.
With 6/8 however, you tend to have 2 pulses in a bar, each worth a dotted crotchet (ie a single note worth 3 8th notes).
3/4: | - | - | -
6/8: | - - | - -
If you play the two accents against each other, you get what's called a polorhythm. In this case, a 3 over 2 polorhythm.
Also: The 3ish parts of tracks like Disco Mushroom and Deranger for example can be "written" in 6/8 (or 12/8 really), but in the context of the song, they are still in 4/4, with the bass playing triplets. If it was in 6/8, the tempo would change, the pulse wouldn't change, but the tempo would because you'd be going from fitting 4 eight notes into however many second to fitting 3 eighth notes into that time. That's kind of confusing, but basically the tracks remain in 4/4 the whole time with the sub-divisions changing as opposed to the time signature.
So to reiterate, 3/4 and 6/8 *are* different, yes they both have the same amount of notes in a bar, but the pulse changes. |
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AvS
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Posted : Feb 11, 2005 17:07
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What is Hallucinogen - Horrorgram? (in the beginning only).
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Yuli
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Posted : Feb 11, 2005 17:51
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mquirk1 I agree with u about the accent but when concerned with trance music where the kik is 4 on the floor, I dont see how it's applicable except of saying that 6/8 is a groove for 280bpm track, and then actually u have 140bpm track since u got 2 kicks in a bar and not 4, which can be more applicable to jungle maybe, or drum and bass but not to trance.
I don't agree tho, that 6/8 is a 'dotted' rhythm, because if it is, then what the triplets stand for? And if it really is then in your 6/8 explanation u definitely went over one bar length
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Shroomy
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Posted : Feb 11, 2005 17:53
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On 2005-02-11 17:07, AvS wrote:
What is Hallucinogen - Horrorgram? (in the beginning only).
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4/4 with 1/8th triplets |
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