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2006 - New evolutions in psymusic?
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diskOtek
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Posted : Jan 26, 2006 02:36
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its for sure that we know nothing of what will happen!
but i ll ake my prediction as all of you!
i think that fullon stuff will reach a point where people says"ok enough!"and this crowd will be split.either to more groovy music or more dark.
imo most people will go for the groovier side of psytrance..more to the progressive side of it.also,electro elements will become more as beckers music and crowd will like it!
my wish is for progtrance to continue its rise and for psytrance to become more psychedelic than it is...! 
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Psicho
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Posted : Jan 26, 2006 03:15
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Well, very interesting
What I miss is that when I have started with psytrance parties, not long ago, in july 2004, the music used to create a "friendly" mood & atmosphere; now I truly see psytrance splitted in two frames: dark & "commercial"...
Where are the groovy sounds like "Yahel - Groovy" , "Alien Project & Astrix - Midnight Sun (G.M.S. Remix)", etc ?!? 
PS. My first party was with Infected Mushroom, it was my birthday and my gift was earing "Deeply Disturbed" live!..wow 
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Freeflow
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Posted : Jan 26, 2006 03:37
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On 2006-01-26 02:36, diskOtek wrote:
its for sure that we know nothing of what will happen!
but i ll ake my prediction as all of you!
i think that fullon stuff will reach a point where people says"ok enough!"and this crowd will be split.either to more groovy music or more dark.
imo most people will go for the groovier side of psytrance..more to the progressive side of it.also,electro elements will become more as beckers music and crowd will like it!
my wish is for progtrance to continue its rise and for psytrance to become more psychedelic than it is...!
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yeah that sounds sane |
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mquirk1
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Posted : Jan 26, 2006 13:21
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I agree with whoever said it will split in two. With the commericial side production levels going through the roof, with more artists trying to achieve the heights of infected, psycraft and sub 6. This will make it even harder for "bedroom artists" to break into the scene as the quality (production wise at least) of the music at the top will be hard to match.
On the other hand, there is sure to be a backlash against the commericial music, possibly going in the complete opposite direction in the form of the crazy dark psy that seems to be so popular lately.
I expect the sound of artists like eskimo and perhaps to a lesser extent the spun sound to lose popularity as it starts to sound dated. |
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e-motion
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Posted : Jan 26, 2006 16:39
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i think separating psy trance in dark and comercial is what's killing it... it's a bad separation that shows bad knowledge about the music... and you're making the non-dark + non-comercial artists loose with this cause they'll be stuck between the two, which for me are the best (leaving the comercial and the dark on the top).
i've heard people calling what i think is good full on (3d vision as an example) dark. stop this war it's ruining the scene...
off-topic: eskimo is one of the artists that changed more his style from album to album, he had two completly different styles this year... so i think that is really wrong |
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diskOtek
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Posted : Jan 26, 2006 17:17
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e-motion,you cant have astrix,infected,sub6 music and neuromotor,xenomorph,parasense music and not categorise them in some manner...the first are commercial,more easy for the average ear the second...well! 
thats my point of view about this issue.
what i cant understand is the separation of many progtrance artists from psytrance.
e.g. andromeda IMO are psytrance artists but using prog sounds...their tracks at least sound alot more psy than any of the fullon todays!
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e-motion
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Posted : Jan 26, 2006 17:27
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yeah you can separate them. now where do you put artists like inner action, cpu, absolum or sirius isness ? that was what i was talking about. also i think you can separate bad commercial to good comercial... like sub6 and infected isn't psy for me! but astrix and eskimo are. also eskimo is my favorite artists and it's not even in my favorite style (which is the 3d vision one).
that's why i say if we want to separate it's not like that and you'll have to creater an enourmous array of groups.
anyway you got my point... you talked about comercial and dark artists forgetting the others. that was my point when i said to end this separation.
EDIT: about that andromeda... if you say that you don't know much about full on man... i know full on that's more psy than dark. that's the problem of separation... you think full on as being IM and sub6 and those are just the worst fulloners
EDIT2: and when i say astrix is more psy than infected... it's true man. infected is gay vocals and top production. astrix still makes tracks for dancefloor madness as everyone did some years ago... altough less agressive now.
i'm sorry, i'm being sincere... i think from what i'm reading here that people don't know a thing about full on... and you should have knowledge before being able to talk bad about something.
conclusion: style is just a name. feel the music, not the style. |
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diskOtek
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Posted : Jan 26, 2006 17:29
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definetely not dark...! 
but....astrix more psy than infected??
no no,i think theyr the same(not style but in terms of how commercial or psy they are)
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Posted : Jan 26, 2006 17:31
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Andromeda isn't that psy IMO.
Some psy elements from time to time but not really psychedelic music. For me it is mostly boring at least at party. I don't say the music is bad but it isn't music for psychedelic partying IMO.
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diskOtek
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Posted : Jan 26, 2006 17:38
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yea,wrongly said..not psytrance artists!
but definetely many if not most of their work is whole lot more psy than the the so considered psyartists make...and its categorised as prog.
thats my point!
oh yea..for party not good?
naah mate..not good for night,even for the small hours,but in the morning....
if not they wouldnt be touring whole world doing partys!
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e-motion
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Posted : Jan 26, 2006 17:42
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i made some dark lovers who hated full on much more than you start to listen to full on. it was inner action and altough they prefer dark they now say that "there is good full on" compared to "we don't listen to full on".. i'm talking about people that some are dark DJs and most of them have been listening to psy for years... it was inner action that surprised them and nowadays they even surprise me with good full on i didn't knew about
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full on is not about sub6 and infected, it's a much bigger thing... feel the music, not the style. |
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diskOtek
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Posted : Jan 26, 2006 17:58
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e-motion,you dont seem to get my point...
let me tell u,hallucinogen is psy or not?
he is,right?from the first that did it.
u compare his music,style etc with the fullon artists you say or with the "andromeda sound"?and dont stick to andromeda,just an example maybe not the right one.think of artists that produce psy music not "dancefloor busters".
you see i m not saying about fullon but about psychedelic trance and imo they are separate things.
so try not to be offensive and begin the"who knows and who dont"about music...
we re here to exchange opinions!
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e-motion
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Posted : Jan 26, 2006 19:15
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i'm not being ofensive i'm just giving my opinion. it's not about you or someone eles... it's that everyone that talks bad about full on talks about the worst full on artists. it's like me saying that hiphop sucks and talk about vanila ice or how the hell his name was
i think psy can come from many places... it's not a defined thing. dancefloor buster are psy (they take you to states of bliss that can't be comparable), dark is psy (another type of state... more like a madness state, but a good one), hallucinogen is psy (more like a voyage)... just different styles of psy i have a friend of mine that prefers dark to full on because he says it is too psychedelic lol.
but oh well... what i know is that gay vocals is NOT psychedelic.
PS: altough it can be... astrix - closer to heaven is cheesy but the vocal it's nice as the song is altough the style of it sucks |
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FaceHead
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Posted : Jan 26, 2006 20:06
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when I said dark im not talking about as mainstream as the accepted genre or the most popular im saying over here im seeing more and more dark arise meaning it is on the rise and yes I think people are getting bored with the typical dark but thats what I see the change in if something is stale to fans the artists making it will want to evolve so they will start trying new things thus evolving the genre of course im and astrix will still be popular that is a given.
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diskOtek
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Posted : Jan 26, 2006 23:00
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seems we finally understood eachother!
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