Alien Bug
IsraTrance Junior Member
Started Topics :
27
Posts :
682
Posted : Jul 4, 2011 04:05
maybe because some techniques & rules are needed to make music? maybe I'm old fashioned but i think that things like right setting of instruments in the mix have the same importance as the arrangement and scales.
if the rules are meaningless then why people go to school?
Alien Bug
IsraTrance Junior Member
Started Topics :
27
Posts :
682
Posted : Jul 4, 2011 04:06
maybe because some techniques & rules are needed to make music? maybe I'm old fashioned but i think that things like right setting of instruments in the mix have the same importance as the arrangement and scales.
if the rules are meaningless then why people go to school?
Alien Bug
IsraTrance Junior Member
Started Topics :
27
Posts :
682
Posted : Jul 4, 2011 04:06
maybe because some techniques & rules are needed to make music? maybe I'm old fashioned but i think that things like right setting of instruments in the mix have the same importance as the arrangement and scales.
if the rules are meaningless then why people go to school?
On 2011-07-03 20:05, faxinadu wrote:
i have a problem with these strict "rules".
just do what you think sounds good in each situation, trust yourself and be creative
100% agreed.... there is no rule, as each frequency range has it´s own spots depending on the source, sound, waveform, fx etc.
listen and do whatever sounds good and leads you to satisfying results. there is no specific freq. range one needs to cut. if you cut your leads at that place, do that because another instrument needs exactly that place....
imao an eq should not do surgical work except you got no access to the source OR you are VERY familiar with the work of an eq, especially your ones, and it is absoultely beneficial.
listen carefully to avoid cutting the shit out of it.
I also like to cut around 15khz or lower for leads when there is too much going on in the top end, the craze of an eg. Fm lead still comes out, at the same time the hats are more crisp... It depends on if a lead needs it or notUpavas - Here And Now (Sangoma Rec.) new EP out Oct.29th, get it here:
http://timecode.bandcamp.com http://upavas.com http://soundcloud.com/upavas-1/
orgytime
IsraTrance Full Member
Started Topics :
120
Posts :
1703
Posted : Jul 4, 2011 20:00
i noticed some artist dont give a shit on lowpassing or similar stuff.
listen to the male voice saying "ooh" @ 4:00
there is a high pitched disturbing peak in the high end... (i guess its about 15khz).
this high pitched noise always appears when this sample is played in the track. (not only on youtube)
for me this is absolutely annoying!
reversus
IsraTrance Junior Member
Started Topics :
22
Posts :
35
Posted : Jul 11, 2011 17:00
Quote:
On 2011-07-04 00:28, jonsta wrote:
I seriously don't understand why most people talk about numbers and whatnot just experiment and go with what sounds good!
aproved!!!every sound is diferent, so diferent treatments its logical
Vermeee
IsraTrance Full Member
Started Topics :
108
Posts :
1069
Posted : Jul 12, 2011 03:47
my tracks are very tight , too many sounds going on most of the times.... and when treatin the high frequencies before, i used to make only those cuts in the TOP HIGH END of the synths ( cuting with low pass the region around 15 khz and higher...
then studin bout frequencies i learnt that the region between the 4000 hz and 12 000 hz are the regions that are very painful for the ears...and also those are the regions that the HATS and SHAKERS are positioned and something i used to think bout my tracks was that they were very ear fatigue and the high percusions would always get hiden in the peak of the track...
then in my last track , besides the cuts with the low pass , i started to put high shelves in almost every sound beetween the region of 4khz and 12khz ( dependin of the soundin )..... and it gave me a more pleasure results
the percusions now are always present and it removed the ear fatigue effect
On 2011-06-02 02:07, dj chichke wrote:
it depends on the lead. i cut the highs just if it doesn't sounds good. sometimes i squeeze my leads with limter to make it cut the mix better without peaks. sometimes i use vintage warmer to make it fatter. sometimes i just boost some frequenices with eq and sometimes i don't do anything. almost always i cut some ringings at th 2500-3000hz area. and also at the low mid area. and of course i cut the low end till 150 hz always. if the lead has lots of power at the bottom so i will cut just till 125-130 hz. but i will always cut the bottom to let the bassline be heard.
I read that u should always cut below 200hz has a rule so that it wouldn't interfeer with KB
if you're cutting the low frequencies to get rid of extra sub freqs that could interfere with your kick and bass, I wouldn't use 200hz on everything.
You can sweep a low cut EQ up from 0 until you start hearing it affect the sound, then dial it back a little bit. If the bass and kick aren't clear enough doing this, you can cut more. It's just that no two sounds are going to have the same low freqs, so you should do it on a case-by-case basis. If it sounds good, it's right. If it doesn't, then tweak some more.
www.musicproductionnatural.com || www.facebook.com/djamoeba | facebook page
then in my last track , besides the cuts with the low pass , i started to put high shelves in almost every sound beetween the region of 4khz and 12khz ( dependin of the soundin )..... and it gave me a more pleasure results
mate is this the last track on your soundcloud you are talkin about?
if so, i would recommend you to rethink your technique as the synths in there sound really muddy and unclear. cutting oder shelving out so deep removes all the air and room you feel with synth lines. only really harsh stuff like brutal fm patches need such drastic removal of higher frequencies. search for an individual eq of each sound instead of just lowpassing oder shelving out of the freqs...
Nomad Moon
IsraTrance Full Member
Started Topics :
134
Posts :
1516
Posted : Jul 14, 2011 12:00
Quote:
On 2011-07-12 07:49, Obelizk wrote:
Quote:
On 2011-07-03 17:09, Nomad Moon wrote:
Quote:
On 2011-06-02 02:07, dj chichke wrote:
it depends on the lead. i cut the highs just if it doesn't sounds good. sometimes i squeeze my leads with limter to make it cut the mix better without peaks. sometimes i use vintage warmer to make it fatter. sometimes i just boost some frequenices with eq and sometimes i don't do anything. almost always i cut some ringings at th 2500-3000hz area. and also at the low mid area. and of course i cut the low end till 150 hz always. if the lead has lots of power at the bottom so i will cut just till 125-130 hz. but i will always cut the bottom to let the bassline be heard.
I read that u should always cut below 200hz has a rule so that it wouldn't interfeer with KB
if you're cutting the low frequencies to get rid of extra sub freqs that could interfere with your kick and bass, I wouldn't use 200hz on everything.
You can sweep a low cut EQ up from 0 until you start hearing it affect the sound, then dial it back a little bit. If the bass and kick aren't clear enough doing this, you can cut more. It's just that no two sounds are going to have the same low freqs, so you should do it on a case-by-case basis. If it sounds good, it's right. If it doesn't, then tweak some more.
Thanx for the explantion, u have very clean sounds i like it alot
Tudo que é melhor e mais superior em mim saúda tudo que é melhor e mais alto em si
Cardinals Cartel
Black Machine
Started Topics :
191
Posts :
3097
Posted : Jul 14, 2011 14:25
Quote:
On 2011-07-04 00:28, jonsta wrote:
I seriously don't understand why most people talk about numbers
and whatnot just experiment and go with what sounds good!
Sure sure .. This is the right answer (Well , I understand why ppls talking about numbers because in music , And even if its somthing free thats coming from inside of you .. Mind , Emotion & soul , There is , Still , An logic way , Kind of math and physics , Its exist , But hey .. Do we want to go by rules and numbers ?) . And sure cuting by hearing will bring more air in , I usualy cut 70% of my sounds - 50 (And not only the leads , Almost all , Its great and bring an sound order in) Agree about the compressors - 90% of my sounds with , Then you play with the eq and do what you want , Channel vol , and your perfect sound is ready and done .
and the high percusions would always get hiden in the peak of the track...
