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147 bpm = ambient... Lets talk about Neuro trance...
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TimeTraveller
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Posted : Sep 3, 2013 18:04
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imo trance is when your hearbeat is synched to tempo and every tune above 152 is not a joy over a longer time, or your heartbeat is not fully snyched to it and the expirience is not crystalclear. Just a theory that came to mind, no offence intended.
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soospicey
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Posted : Sep 3, 2013 20:15
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your heart will not sync to the beat at 152bpm, FYI
(unless you are very excited and have a jog wheel installed on your heart)
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TimeTraveller
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Posted : Sep 3, 2013 20:20
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 this would be the absolute maximum! .. and in trance your hearbeat can go a bit higher with its own pace I guess. I myself prefer
to dance at +- 145
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klippel
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Posted : Sep 3, 2013 22:34
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music so fast that my brain does not get hold of all input freaks me out. its beyond me how one can feel comfortable with that highspeed informations.
and, "neurotrance". for real?
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soospicey
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Posted : Sep 3, 2013 22:47
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yes, for real. neurotrance
hehe this might not sit to well with some people, but i have a feeling that some of the faster stuff is just simply too fast for some people's brains to keep up
Dont worry, there are still plenty of producers that will keep it slow and simple for you
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Padmapani
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Posted : Sep 4, 2013 01:30
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On 2013-09-03 22:47, soospicey wrote:
yes, for real. neurotrance
hehe this might not sit to well with some people, but i have a feeling that some of the faster stuff is just simply too fast for some people's brains to keep up
Dont worry, there are still plenty of producers that will keep it slow and simple for you
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what differentiates "neurotrance" from hitech?
i'm not sure it's the speed, that puts most people off this music. at least for me it isn't. i find this music to lack energy. the kick and bass most of the time blend into one rumble while i need a strong kick to make me dance.
it also uses the same non-melodic, metallic. glitchy lead sounds as is psycore, but much less (at least in the insector example), which makes it better by default. so at least it's different from psycore, but i thought it was hitech that was defined by more melodies and less screechyness?
the complexity also isn't the culprit for me. i apprechiate complexity in rhytm, melody and harmony (as well as a rich atmosphere), but not in the number of different fx applied in a given time
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TimeTraveller
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Posted : Sep 4, 2013 01:51
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On 2013-09-04 01:30, Padmapani wrote:
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On 2013-09-03 22:47, soospicey wrote:
yes, for real. neurotrance
hehe this might not sit to well with some people, but i have a feeling that some of the faster stuff is just simply too fast for some people's brains to keep up
Dont worry, there are still plenty of producers that will keep it slow and simple for you
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the complexity also isn't the culprit for me. i apprechiate complexity in rhytm, melody and harmony (as well as a rich atmosphere), but not in the number of different fx applied in a given time
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+1 at complexity lol.. the speed is rather a mask, because it is much harder to create clear,deep and complex psychedelic music at unexaggerated tempos.
It's more for young unexpirienced easy to impress minds imo 
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UYOYU
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Posted : Sep 4, 2013 03:40
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My legs are way too long to be able to dance to this...
People with short legs are able to dance to this more easy than I do...but honestly, if I had short legs, I'd rather go home or some alternative dancefloor.
Heard this stuff at nightime at Ozora this year, and it made me leave the dancefloor...definately not my cup of tea...insane type of trance...horrible...had a great time in the bar because of this though !
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Taisto
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Posted : Sep 4, 2013 08:58
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TimeTraveller
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Posted : Sep 4, 2013 09:32
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need to add to my statments here, all in all this insector album is for me one of the better ones in this fast genre, mainly because it contains sometimes melodies and not only breaks and fx.
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OzMike
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Posted : Sep 4, 2013 12:13
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What's wrong with neurotrance? They have neurofunk in drum n bass.
I actually find Psykovksy has headed more in to the realm of IDM than anything else. But even then te questionable on the quality front. I enjoy it for what it is but much prefer his current work as part of the Osom project.
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mudpeople
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Posted : Sep 4, 2013 13:21
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I was a dnb fan before i was into psytrance so fast stuff isnt alien to me Theres just a different way to dance to it is all
In my own work I sometimes go fast, usually not but sometimes the mood is upon me and it just works that way. I dont try to contain it into any certain speed range (sometimes i make downtempo 110bpm, sometimes 170+, usually somewhere in between)
Its up to the artist, after all, what their art will become. Its not really up to those encountering the art to dictate what 'should be' or not. Some will like it (and trust me people like fast psytrance, especially in my country apparently USA isnt just warmongery and McDonalds after all ), some will not like it. Either way the artists will continue to make the art they want to make! All art forms, throughout all ages, have had controversies, and people who enjoy the works despite the controversies.
Like what you like, let others like what they like, spend more time thinking about what you personally like, than what you personally DONT like, and we'll all be happy! 
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Ellon
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Posted : Sep 4, 2013 13:53
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Upavas
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Posted : Sep 6, 2013 01:35
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While I saw a few people ecstatically moving and wriggling to every kick, most people were dancing at half speed. I also danced at half speed, and it almost felt like drum and bass, without the relaxing feel, it is very carthatic and reminds me of Deuters Dynamic meditation music... The sound design of the Insector seemed interesting enough, with at times almost sparse elements... Funny enough I actually liked it....
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frisbeehead
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Posted : Sep 6, 2013 06:52
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Funny enough I actually liked it....
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nothing funny! it's great music! very well made!
society has made us the policemen whose task is to endoctrinate others, make them comply to the norm and done it so well, that even people who manage to catch the margins (let's call it Zion for fun) are trying to establish what is normal and acceptable based on their own thoughts and ideas. how creepy is that? music is just music. will you ever accuse, say, some psychedelic trip of being to intense for you? or some epiphany of being to overwelming, maybe? or to much input to cope with?
you see, for someone who's into hip hop, the whole deal - either slow or fast - sounds like it's played by a robot and without soul and the comparison between different strokes of what's perceived as the "same thing" doesn't even matter, ha!
ok, rant over.
seriously, I can cope with KBBB being made the aesthetic that no one dares to question, but speed limits and fees on Electronic Music? or "this shit is to strong to me"? or the heart pace or how fast you can move your legs? what else? does it sound like it's made from synthesizers instead of accoustic instruments, therefore lacks human touch? or quantized music ruined everything, akai 4 ever?
just teasing gentleman
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