After Insector basically called a tornado to the last party in Iowa where I played a live set( which was a lot of fun and such beautiful people danced to it and wow...) it came to me!!! My "Full On" music is actually ambient! So when I talked with MrInsector (please forgive me but your name is about as weird to me as mine is to you and my memory really suxx when it comes to names...) about it he was inclined to agree... SO..... ! I think I have to start writing neuro trance. A lot of Neurotrance sounds not very well written... Insectors was, so was Axis Mundis, especially considering what the latter ( whom I am very happy to finally have met in person) uses to hear his mixes... So... After all this bla bla and me still being really happy to be a part of Aliens in Atlantis...
WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK ABOUT NEUROTRANCE???????????????????????????????
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Posted : Sep 3, 2013 07:17
I like it a lot! very inteligent music when done right! has tons of energy and can sound imensely complex! glad there's other kinds of music as well, as I feel you can only have so much of it!
make a track already!
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Posted : Sep 3, 2013 07:56
much more musical togetherness-content that the kdd, psykovsky new outburst but at that pace a party with lots of different dance styles at the dancfloor is impossible.Only for fidget around.Interesting for headphones though IMO.
https://soundcloud.com/shivagarden
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Posted : Sep 3, 2013 09:18
Honest to god, am currently ripping this whole thing off youtube so that I can pitch it down and see if I like it better.
It's nice to hear actual melody at that speed, but I'm convinced that it would somehow still be better at a tempo I'd like to dance at.
To each their own.
EDIT: to be clear, no intention on joining the hate brigade for neuro/ anything above 150 bpm.
This was actually pretty decent - and this is coming from a guy who moved from 145, to groovy prog, and now making 100bpm psychedelic glitch hop so obviously I'm a bpm wimp.
Dance, even if you have nowhere to do it but your living room. ~Kurt Vonnegut
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Posted : Sep 3, 2013 10:40
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Posted : Sep 3, 2013 12:59
Have enjoyed Insector from the start but really his two albums on Kamino Records are simply amazing melodic high speed.
I admit that recent Psykovksy is a bit off the rails but I disagree whole heartedly about KDD, I think overall he is the master of this style. To me KDD is only compatible to eniChkin.
Crazy Astronaut is another high BPM melodic style that's pretty switched on.
Not sure why but I do find this music very danceable, there a groove in the high bpms that still let's me dance at a slower pace to this inherent rhythm. Maybe I find it similar to the groove in much of the extreme heavy metal styles I grew up with.
Saw KDD do a sunrise years ago and it was the best music IMO for sunrise. Think it was around 2006.
Cuntus Maximus.
much more musical togetherness-content that the kdd, psykovsky new outburst but at that pace a party with lots of different dance styles at the dancfloor is impossible.Only for fidget around.Interesting for headphones though IMO.
I think Psykovsky makes music that could be classified as experimental, in that he's always playing with all the elements and doesn't fear wierdness but actually embraces it. But he's capable of creating very unique atmospheres and psychedelic soundscapes.
While Kindzadza doesn't play as much with the structure but seems to me more obsessed with the sound design part of it, like a mad scientist.
Kolay (Furious/CA) has talent beyond belief and made some of my favourite fast tunes ever!
About this bpm thing: I'm glad I can enjoy music from ambient to this kind of frenetic music with everything in between. As long as one feels good about what he's doing, go for it! Never ceases to amaze me how many people have set the boundaries for their music in terms of bpm from x to y never more never less kind of thing.
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Posted : Sep 3, 2013 17:12
much more musical togetherness-content that the kdd, psykovsky new outburst but at that pace a party with lots of different dance styles at the dancfloor is impossible.Only for fidget around.Interesting for headphones though IMO.
I think Psykovsky makes music that could be classified as experimental, in that he's always playing with all the elements and doesn't fear wierdness but actually embraces it. But he's capable of creating very unique atmospheres and psychedelic soundscapes.
While Kindzadza doesn't play as much with the structure but seems to me more obsessed with the sound design part of it, like a mad scientist.
Kolay (Furious/CA) has talent beyond belief and made some of my favourite fast tunes ever!
About this bpm thing: I'm glad I can enjoy music from ambient to this kind of frenetic music with everything in between. As long as one feels good about what he's doing, go for it! Never ceases to amaze me how many people have set the boundaries for their music in terms of bpm from x to y never more never less kind of thing.
I can enjoy music at high bpm's too (not just music related to psytrance), hightech at high bpm is mostly not enojyable for me not because of the high bpm's but mostly it has a weak structure, or multple structures that does not really fit together and has not the depth that lower bpm's has. I and many other that really want to enjoy and expirience cannot enjoying dance to it like on a bit lower bpm's this is what I wanted to say ;-)
This is what counts to me and my lady when we go out for party, we want to dive in, dance and enjoy, and as experimental it wants to be, it is not necesseary a joy to dance to it. Last weekend I attended a illegal underground psychedelic trance party in hamburg and the 200 people enjoyed the sound and danced that many styles like probably never will happen at a kindzadza time. Saw kindzadza 8 days ago in Bavaria at Kannibalen Massaker Festival and nobody of those almost 2000 people danced that way to his creation. A woman has begun to scream and cry even.. but that was a random disaster and she was at a false place for her soul. It is interesting to hear Kindzadza life, not really overwheliming my inner totaly, the impresion is fully on his microdetails less on the musical content itself for me. Nevertheless worth a dedicated hearing.
Psycovsky made one timeless album for me, but it lies years ago, I dont feel these nostop breaks really, I like that state of trance in psytrance related music.
https://soundcloud.com/shivagarden
It's very possible to dance to the high BPM stuff; Megalopsy and Kashyyyk played super fast at Ozora this year and it was my favourite dance experience of the whole thing.
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Posted : Sep 3, 2013 17:36
it is but not the way some of us are desinged to dance when they forget and just love what happens. Therefor it is too fast, we are just humans not robots hehe however, it definetly is possible we danced for a longer while to it. Comparing the dancing crowd from a kindzadza time to other crowd that freaked out like on a tornado while music was psychedelic and a bit slower it is a huge difference how it is. IMO at Kindzadza it is hard but possible at some true psychedelic Trance times it is a joy and easy going at the same time unforgettably psychedelic - while you have that 'trancedance' expirience over long time.
Megalopsy is my favourite darkpsy project for hearing, cannot say how it is to dance to it though but I guess it is not possible to dance each kind of dance style to it https://soundcloud.com/shivagarden
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Posted : Sep 3, 2013 17:37
so obviously I'm a bpm wimp.
however, it definetly is possible we danced for a longer while to it. Comparing the dancing crowd from a kindzadza time to other crowd that freaked out like on a tornado while music was psychedelic and a bit slower it is a huge difference how it is. IMO at Kindzadza it is hard but possible at some true psychedelic Trance times it is a joy and easy going at the same time unforgettably psychedelic - while you have that 'trancedance' expirience over long time.
