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Nectarios
Martian Arts
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Posted : Dec 24, 2010 12:00
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On 2010-12-22 09:10, makus wrote:
i use quite lots of compressors in my psytrance tracks. actually i use a compressor everywhere, if it should be there.
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Me too. Compressors have parameters, its not like sticking a compressor on a channel, means over squashed sounds.
Resonant filter leads and filter drones are not a matter of carefull mixing. some synth filters that have the character I like, do tend to emphasise different frequency ranges by different amounts as you sweep the spectrum, especially analog filters. Stick a multiband compressor, set the bands repsective thresholds/ratios and let the filter scream all the way through the spectrum, yet keeping the "screaming" consistent across the spectrum.
Try doing that with fader automation, even if you get it right, the sound is never as thick across the spectrum...and that's just one small example.
If people don't have a good grasp of dynamics tools, fair enough, don't use them.
But don't blame the tools that are there in your aid.
+1 on the less is more.
Peace out.
 
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daark
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Posted : Dec 24, 2010 13:58
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i don't believe all those people who say i don't use compressors or eq at all ... it's a snobbish bluff
yes i try too use less, especially on midi where i have a lot of control of dynamics and frequencies
but sometimes you want too colour the sound and that is not a crime
so in classical music you don't use chorus effect so what now we all should take this rule to trance ?
it is basicaly the same statement
and less sometimes means not enough also take that for consideration
i would say : "it's not about quantity, it's about quality(litteraly)."
http://soundcloud.com/magimix-1/chilling-forest-whispers
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TimeTraveller
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Posted : Dec 24, 2010 15:00
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classical music is pure naturalistic no comps no effects just good microphones and recording techniques like ortf.And good locations.
I'll record soon an ensemble of barock classical style 
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Maine Coon
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Posted : Dec 24, 2010 16:03
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Chorus in classical? Of course, it exists - if you have more than one player in a group.  |
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daark
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Posted : Dec 25, 2010 16:25
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On 2010-12-24 16:03, Maine Coon wrote:
Chorus in classical? Of course, it exists - if you have more than one player in a group.
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yes i often see the guy with the stick saying
"ok people lets do the chorus again"
http://soundcloud.com/magimix-1/chilling-forest-whispers
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Mike A
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Posted : Dec 28, 2010 19:25
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as a segment of the piece, not an effect.
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Maine Coon
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Posted : Dec 28, 2010 23:09
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Yes, as an effect.
When you have a group of identical instruments playing the same part (in unison). This is exactly what the (electronic) chorus effect is attempting to reproduce. Except, a dozen of violins actually sound better than a violin sample chained to a chorus plug.  |
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A.Rosengren
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Posted : Jan 25, 2011 02:59
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Still noteworthy and usable tips!
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zebu connection
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Posted : Feb 4, 2011 13:14
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love the first one tip!!
never kill the natural wave spectrum...
booom keep it killing |
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orange
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Posted : Feb 4, 2011 15:42
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PoM
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Posted : Feb 4, 2011 20:05
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i love to compress the shit out of my drums ,a 909 snare jump from 1995 to 2015 with 10 db of compression , 1 db for 1 year lol .these day most like compressed sound ,when it well done that punch and in your face sound can sound great if it dont tired the ears. |
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unit1
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Posted : Feb 5, 2011 16:20
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thanks i liked |
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Disrupted
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Posted : Feb 7, 2011 08:30
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Nice tips. I am using compression if i need something more punchy or in the opposite more constant and controlled.
I think the best is to avoid using those by adjusting midi and synth instead. But in my case tho, 90% of the time synth wont sounds ok and midi just wont do it all the time.
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Locrian
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Posted : Feb 9, 2011 23:06
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Good tips!
Some things I would like to add though.
1. Try to get things as good as possible before even thinking about effects. Learn how to program your synths instead of trying to fix things with eq:s, compressors and such.
2. Try to learn a bit about how audio actually works. Also look into psycho-acoustics(the science on how our brains interpret sound) and audiology(the science of hearing). A little knowledge in these will help you not only to get better sounding tracks but will also help you evade bad tips and espescially bad products.
3. When using any kind of sound-changing processing (compressors, eq:s, distortions) make sure to compare the unprocessed sound with the processed at the same perceived level. Go back and forth until you think they sound the same level, then compare how they sound. This way you won't get fooled to think the processed sound sound better just because it's louder.
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zebu connection
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Posted : Feb 14, 2011 21:52
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locrian
2. Try to learn a bit about how audio actually works. Also look into psycho-acoustics(the science on how our brains interpret sound) and audiology(the science of hearing). A little knowledge in these will help you not only to get better sounding tracks but will also help you evade bad tips and espescially bad products.
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nice bro... can u show us somethink about audiology? I'm searching for it here.. later will up some link
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