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0 dB Kick, pros and cons.
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PoM
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Posted : Feb 4, 2009 18:05
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yes i agree it would be a pain to try that and i don t see any avantage starting a track with a kick so loud , it s just strange placebo effect to think it sound better that way (but cliping can be nice for many things ) |
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~d2~
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Posted : Feb 4, 2009 18:06
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On 2009-02-04 17:57, PoM wrote:
maybe it sound strange to you but the goal of some engineers is to go the loudest with the less distotion ,what ever technics used to archive it .
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True.....Of all the ones I have spoken with who do this, none of them understood anything outlined in that paper.
What is interesting is that paper has explained to me why myspace sounds so shit....and that I could improve it by peaking lower.  |
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PoM
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Posted : Feb 4, 2009 18:24
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i haven t read the paper but i heard all dac now handle these peaks with no problems, not sure if it s true.(if you re talking about intersample peak ) |
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~d2~
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Posted : Feb 4, 2009 18:32
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On 2009-02-04 18:24, PoM wrote:
i haven t read the paper but i heard all dac now handle these peaks with no problems, not sure if it s true.(if you re talking about intersample peak )
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Yes and other things as well though. Where did you hear that all DAC's can handle that? Thats a bold statement!!!!
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ThiagoNAKA
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Posted : Feb 4, 2009 18:57
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Humm..... Maybe some DACīs can handle the peaks. But for me is hard to believe.
PoM, try to take a look at the article at the top of page 3. Iīve studied some DSP principles at engineer university, and thatīs the point of the digital. Analog is a line, digital is a bunch of points. You will always have a space between two points. And itīs hard to predict these space behavior.
I donīt have a clue about how many cycles/msec we need to reach perfect monitoring, but I guess that, even with todays high processing power, digital is still not 100% safe when dealing this.
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br0d
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Posted : Feb 5, 2009 03:06
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On 2008-12-27 17:26, Spindrift wrote:
In a floating point environment like pretty much all modern sequencers the level on the channel faders really doesn't matter, you just have to make sure the master is not clipping if you are recording to fixed point.
So if you start with the kick on 0 dBFS and master on -6 dBFS or the other way around will have no effect whatsoever on the sound in the end.
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This...it's almost impossible to clip the channel faders in SX. As for benefits beyond the psychological, maybe you get a higher bit resolution out of the reverb tails or other decaying data on the pre fader insert channels. Who knows. If so the difference is probably trivial. Maybe the best reason to do it is because it's h@rdc-0r3
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http://www.boole.org/audio/index.php#tvf
http://www.boole.org/audio/snippets/Boole-The_Vital_Few-Some_Snippets.mp3 |
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